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WHO ARE THEY Research summaries of our members
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Included in this page are details of research being carried out by various members of the Cave Family History Society - summarised names, membership number, and brief details of the extent of their research. If you wish to contact any members listed, please do so through the Membership Secretary. The member will be contacted and then asked to communicate with the enquirer. The Society will NOT divulge e-mail, or personal, addresses to any enquirer. For members; the address of members does appear in CAVEMAN, the official newsletter and journal of the society.
Tony Mairs (629) Cave of Thorney CAM Tony is descended from Mary (Ann) Cave born 1827 in Sydney, who married William Boyce on the 20th of May 1842 in Port Underwood NZ. Her father was Charles Samuel Cave who was born in 1793 in Eye, north Cambridgeshire. Her mother was Susannah Dockerell who CSC married in Sydney NSW on the 15th October 1825. She was his 5th wife! We then go back to Samuel (1757), of Thorney CAM, and Anne Cobb. Samuel was the youngest son of Thomas Cave (1727), of Leicester St Marys, and Elizabeth Wagstaff (Table BB); William (1698) and Jane Spencer; Thomas (c 1657), of Leicester All Saints, and his 2nd wife Martha Loe; Thomas (c1635). There is a great possibility this Thomas was born in Walcot LEI in 1635/6. he would then be the eldest son of Thomas (1612) and Abigail Lord. Then to Thomas (c 1590) and Joan Parberry; Thomas (c 1550) and Elizabeth Mawbee; Christopher (c1520) and Agnes Catesby; Thomas (d 1547/8); John of Sinecross (?) and Catherine Saunders. This “possibility” is totally dependent on a will dated 1684 of Thomas of Walcot who mentions his “eldest son” Thomas. This Thomas was baptised 24th Jan 1635/6 in Walcot LEI. The family group up to Thomas (c 1657) have five positive DNA results that do not match the only ones available linked to the John Cave of Sinecross family group. We are now waiting for one result that could sort out this anomaly.
Lalah Simpson (628) Cave of Yaxley HUN and London Lalah is descended from Maria Cave (1806), of London, who married Richard Hall in 1824. Then to Holsea Cave (1776), of St Martins in the Field LND, and Mary Ann Adlam; Holsea (1751), of Yaxley HUN, and Susannah Smith; John (1718), of Peterborough NTH, and Jane Bishop. Finally John (d 1718) of Peterborough and his wife Jane.
Simon Scott (627) Cave of London Simon is descended from his great grandfather Alfred Leslie Cave (1897), of Wandsworth LND, and his wife Hilda Drury. (Data Protection prevents me from naming his Cave mother and grandfather). Then to Edwin John (1863), of Southwark LND, and his wife Blanche Slatter; William Henry (1840) of Mile End LND, and Hannah Whiffen; John Wright Cave (1809) and Ann Law; William (c 1780) and Elizabeth Hazzard; Edward (1756) and Jane Clarke. Finally (or is it?) William Cave a Coppersmith of West Smithfield LND and his wife Mary. This could be Mary Brocks who married a William Cave in Cassington OXF 30th March 1746. If this is the case then Williams parents are Zechariah (1696) and Ann Cook. Then to John Cave (c 1662), of Artingworth NTH and his wife Ann.
Veronica Williams (626) Cave of Claycoton NTH Veronica is descended from Sarah Cave (1776), of Claycoton, who married John lee in 1804 her parents were Richard (c 1747) and Elizabeth York. We can find no trace, at this stage, of the parents of Richard (c 1747). Veronica’s husband is linked to the Cave family through his Great Grand Aunt, Mary Ann Rogers, who married Thomas Cave (1840) of Kingswinford.
Judy Cave Hohendal (625) Judy’s mother Frances was one of the early members of the society (35). She was married to George Valentine Cave (1916) of New York. His parents were James Adams Cave (1886) and Theresa Gregerson. Then to John (c 1856), of Penninghame SCT) and Robina Willoughby They married in 1873 in Newton Stewart SCT. John was an illegitimate son of a John Cave (c1830) and Barbara Neil. Barbara married James Adams in 1865. The story does not end here! A descendant of Charles Willoughby Cave, the eldest son of John and Robina, has taken part in the society DNA project. The results indicate that he is part of the “core group” of families based about Northamptonshire, Warwickshire and Leicestershire. How did John end up in Scotland?
Glennis Ferris (624) Cave of March CAM Glennis is descended from Arthur Cecil W Cave (1891), born in Curragh IRE. His father was Charles Cave (1857) and Ada Childs. Charles was a Sgt Maj in the 62nd Foot and had children in Aldershot, Karachi, Quetta and Cambridge. His father was Charles (1857), of Huntingdon, and Martha Whittlesea. Then to William Golding cave (1805), of March CAM and Ann Maile; Watson Holmes Cave (1782) and Elizabeth Golding; Watson Cave (1756), of Peterborough, and Hannah Howard; George (1715) of Caldecott RUT, and Mary; Thomas (1669) of Northampton, and Bridgett Bull; Thomas (1632) of Thorpe Malsor NTH, and Ann; Robert (1590) and Susannah Watkins; Thomas (1544) and Prudence Booth; John (d 1593) and Margaret; John? (Living 1547) and Margaret. Finally John (The Elder) (buried 1557) in Thorpe Malsor.
Gwenda Aronson (623) Gwenda’s parents were Keith Harry Caves (1931), of New Zealand and his 1st wife Annie Gwendoline Nell Stewart. Then to Percy James Caves (1895), of Newport Pagnell, and Alice Bright; James (1861), of Bedford, and Sarah Richardson. Finally Frederick Caves(c 1819), of Emberton BKM, and Eleanor Hardwick.
Catherine Cave (622) Cave of Bristol Catherine’s grandparents were William (1868), of Ontario and Mary Jane Densham. Then to William (1825) of Bristol and Ann Bradcock (nee Hayward); George (1801), of Thornbury GLS and Ann Hiscox (married in Bristol); George (1766), of Oldbury GLS and Sarah Cook. This may be George who was baptised 4Mar1766 in Owlpen, son of George (1730) and his 2nd wife Anne Stephens. Then to Lionel (1710) and Edith Gale. This will then link in to the Cave’s of Owlpen but does need more research.
Marcus Poulin (621) Cave of Nebraska, Ohio and England Marcus’s great grandmother was Rachel Jane Caves (1901), of NE, who married Stephen Joseph Osbert. Her parents were Charles William Caves (1866), of Harrison Co OH, and Esther Mae Harriet Perkins. Then to Robert Pittis Caves (1836) and Bethia Richard. Finally Charles Caves (c 1804), of England, and Mary Castell (c 1815) also of England.
Alan Hood (620) Cave of Wilbarston NTH Alan’s grandmother was Louisa Cave (1868), of Wilbarston, who married Thomas Henry Wright in 1905. Then to William Marshall Cave (1831) and his 2nd wife Eliza Tebbott; William (1796), of Sawtry HUN, and Mary Marshall. Finally William (1752) of Upton with Coppingford HUN, and Elizabeth.
Gerard William Coleridge (619) Cave of Sidbury Manor DEV. Gerard is related to Betty Coleridge who married Sir Edward Charles Cave 3rd Bt of Sidbury.
David Smider (618) Cave of Darley Dale DBY David’s grandfather is Alick Cave (1893), who was born in the Stockton Reg District area, and his wife Lily Stafford. Then to Edwin (1865) and Jean Isabella McKay; Frederick John (1839), of Derby, and his 1st wife Helen Jones; John (1800), of Ordsall NTT, and Rebecca Gill; Thomas (1765) and Catherine Ponton; Christopher (1734) and Martha; Christopher (1690), of Normanby by Spital LIN, and Ann Hannah; Christopher (c 1650) and Sarah; Christopher (c 1630) and Mary; Christopher (1607), of Owmby; Christopher (c 1580) and Jane Norton. Finally Christopher (c 1555)
James Stewart Cave (617) Cave of Holywood, Northern Ireland. James parents are Randal Henry (1925), who went to Canada in 1952, and Patricia Stewart. His grandparents were Albert G (1882), of Holywood co Antrim, and Eleanor Stewart. From DNA results there is every indication that JSC’s ancestors were from the Leicester/Warwicks/Northants area.
James Austin Wain (616) Cave of Thornton LEI. James is descended from Elizabeth Cave (1887), of markfield LEI, who married Joseph Dorset. Her father was John (1862) who married Sarah Isaacs. Then to William (1835) of Stanton under Bardon and Sarah Clements; John (1802) and Ann Gibson; Varney (1785) and Susannah Jacques; Obediah (1748), of Croft LEI, and Mary Varney; William (1712), of Frolesworth, and his 2nd wife Ann Smith; Thomas (1672), of Oadby, and Ann. Finally to William (c 1645) and Mary.
John A Turner (615) Cave of Nottingham NTT. John is descended from Hilda Cave (1887) and her husband Archibald CC Beecroft. Her parents were Thomas Carter Cave (1846), of Coventry, and his 3rd wife Sarah Jane Greening. Then to Thomas Carter Cave (1817), of Nottingham, and Marianne Wager Hall; Thomas Cave (1791), of Cold Ashby, and Elizabeth Taylor. It is possible that Thomas is a brother of Abraham Carter Cave (1795), of Cold Ashby, whose parents are recorded as Edward and Mary Carter. There is no positive proof of this at this time.
Cristi Cave (614) Cave of Stanford on Avon NTH. Cristi is descended from William Dennis Cave (1878) and Emmie Matilda Stanstedt. His parents were Darius Washington Cave (1849 and Sarah Ventura Jones. Then to William Dennis (1801) and his 2nd wife Ellen C Russel. This family went to Maryland USA. William Dennis’s parents were Charles (1765), of Swinford and Sarah Choice. Then to John (1744), of Walton LEI, and Ursula Jackson; Thomas (1700) and his 2nd wife Mary Smith; Richard (1654), of Walcot LEI, and Ann Brown; Thomas (1612) and Abigail Lord; Thomas (c 1590) and Joan Parberry; Thomas (c 1555), of Walcot, and Elizabeth Mawbee; Christopher (c 1525), of Stanford and Walcot, and Agnes Catesby; Thomas (c 1500); John, (c 1475), of Sinecross, and a daughter of Edward Saunders; Thomas (1445) and his 1st wife Thomasine Passemere. This is the main line of the Cave Family of Stanford on Avon as depicted in Heralds Visitations and proved by The College of Heralds.
Nicholas Gould (613) Cave of Owlpen GLS. Nicholas is descended from Elizabeth Cave (1791), of Owlpen. Her parents were John (1752), of Uley GLS, and Hannah Holder. Then to Thomas (1722), of Owlpen, and Sarah Gingell; Thomas (1685) and Elizabeth Butcher; Lionel (c 1657) and Jane; Lionel (c 1630). Mention is made of another Lionel Cave, in 1645, who “returned to Owlpen from visiting mother and friends in the remotest parts of Somersetshire”.
Edwin Joseph Cave (612) Cave of Liverpool LAN Edwin’s parents were Edwin (1919), of West Derby, and Ada Simpson. Then to Edwin (1882) and Ann Jones; John (1858) and Margaret Rothwell; Richard (c 1832) and his 1st wife Ann Crowther; John (1794), of Bickerstaff, and Elizabeth Aspinall; John (1759) and Alice Mullis; John (1729), of Burscough, and Ann Leyland; Thomas (1699) and Joannah Culshaw; John (c 1675), of Halsall, and Cicely Halton; Thomas (c 1644), of Ormskirk, and Elizabeth Jackson. Finally, John (c 1611), of Ormskirk, and Elizabeth Chaddocke.
Herbert Maurice Cave (611) Cave of Wootton BDF. Herbert’s parents were Herbert (1889), of Weardale DUR, and Irene Richmond. Then to Frederick (1845), of Kempston BDF, and Ruth Bitchenor; George (1824) and Elizabeth Church; George (1824) and Elizabeth Church; John (1799), of Wootton BDF, and Elizabeth Hall. Finally Joseph (c 1775) and his 1st wife Martha O’Dell.
Nathaniel & Dawn Stock (610) Cave of Claycoton NTH Dawn is descended from Martha Cave (1813), of Yelvertoft NTH, who married John Burt. Her parents were William (1772) and Elizabeth Lee. Then to William (1747), of Claycoton NTH and his 1st wife Elizabeth; Thomas (1693), of Catthorpe, and Ann Curtis; John (c1666), Rector of Catthorpe 1686 and his wife Frances Hull. Finally, his father, Rev John Cave (c1636).
William Charles Cave
(609) Cave of Great Houghton NTH. Richard Carey (594) Awaiting information.
Lesley Gilder (593) Lesley’s parents were Thomas Neil Cave (1922), of Christchurch NZ, and Lilian May Jackson. Then to Henry George (1886), of Erith KEN, and Elizabeth Jeffrey; Henry (1848), of Kirkdale LAN, and Caroline Elizabeth Ansell; James (1820), Ormskirk LAN and Elizabeth Lea; Thomas (1788), of Kirkdale LAN, and Elizabeth Brooks. Finally Henry (c1760) who married Jane Parkinson in 1786.
Jane Varey (592) Cave of Sulgrave Jane, is descended from Martha Matilda Cave (1854) James Southby. Then to John (1823), of Culworth, and Sarah Dean Mathews; Richard (1775), of Thorpe Malsor, and Charlotte Pettifer; Richard (1751) and Elizabeth Ray; Thomas (1714) and Elizabeth; William (1685) and Joice; John (1661) and his first wife Elizabeth Seamark; John (1624) and Elizabeth Hide. Finally Valentine (c 1585) and Agnes Bate.
Susan Jones (591) Susan’s father was John Michael Cave (1953-2002) and ? Geer. Then to Richard Stanley (1910) and ? Filby; John Thomas (1873), of Holborn, and Elizabeth Eichberger; John (1848), of Swinford, and Annie E Jacks; John (1818) and Catherine Burbidge; Jacob (1795), of Yelvertoft, and Mary Atkins; William (1747), of Claycoton, and his 2nd wife Dorcas Hobley; Thomas (1693), of Catthorpe, and Ann Curtis; The Rev John (c 1666) and Frances Hull. Finally his father, The Rev John (c1640), also of Catthorpe.
Ian Cave (590) Cave of Great Houghton NTH Ian’s Grandfather is George Gregory (1905) and Lilian Ethel Fitzhugh. Then to Harry Ernest (1872) and Dinah M Austin; Henry Francis (1848) and Sarah Anne Knight; Benjamin (1798) and Elizabeth Briggs; Benjamin (1754) and his second wife Hannah Tew. Finally Joseph (c1710) and Ann Whitney.
Ruth Hecht (589) Cave of Bristol Ruth’s Grandparents were Edward henry Paul (1897) and Gwen Sharpe. Then to Edward Harford Halliday Cave (1863) and Sarah Ellen Morgan; Edward (1829) and Susan Harriet Harford; George (1798) and Anne Halliday; Stephen (1763), of Cleve Hill Bristol, and Anne Daniel; John (1736), of Arnos Vale, and Susannah Cox; Edward (1712), of Pool Hall, and Mary Hallward; Walter (1686), of Avenbury, and Hannah; William (1645), of Martley WOR, and Elizabeth Ingram; Thomas (1612) and Elizabeth Arden; William (1586) and Ann Browning; William (1565), of Leigh Sinton WOR, and his 1st wife Eleanor Beale; Richard (c 1540) and Margaret de la Hay; Thomas (c 1500) and Elizabeth Tovy; john and Margaret Acton; Thomas (al 1453-1472) and Margaret Hall; John and Mary Brookes; John and Jane Tresham; Sir John and Abigail Ladbrooke. Finally Thomas who married Lucy a daughter of John Seton. John Seton is recorded, in Nicholls History of Leicester, as being a brother of George Seton the Chief Justice of England.
Gill Melrose (588) Cave of Monkland Gill is descended from Dora Heath Cave (1910) and her first husband, Philip S Steadman. Her parents were Daniel Walter (1871), of Leominster HEF, and his wife Emily Heath Worrall. Then to John (1824) and Ann Fox; Edward (1780), of Rowden Abbey, and his wife Elizabeth Perry; Edward (c 1754) and Mary Parry; Edward (1733), of Buckland in Docklow, and Ann Parry; Edward (1712), of Pool Hall, and Mary Hallward; Walter (1686), of Avenbury, and Hannah; William (1645), of Martley, and Elizabeth Ingram; Thomas (1612) and Elizabeth Arden; William (586) and Ann Browning;William (1565), of Leigh Sinton, and Eleanor Beale; Richard (c1535) and Margret de la Hay; Thomas (c 1500) and Elizabeth Tovy; John and Margaret Acton; Thomas and Margaret Hall; John and Mary Brookes; John and Jane Tresham; Sir John and Abigail Ladbrooke. To Thomas Cave who married Lucy, daughter of John Seton. I believe that this may then be linked to Sir John Cave (1330) and Mary Genille; Sir Alexander de Cave and Ampelicia Hotham; Peter Cave and Anne Ward; Alexander (1262) and Matilda Malodean; Peter Cave and Eleanor Bromflete; Geoffrey de Cave and Mabel Saltmarsh; Robert and a daughter of Thomas de Metham; Brian de Cave. Whose father was sid to be Jordayne de Cave of South Cave in Yorkshire.
Chris Williams (587) Cave of Compton Dundon Chris is descended from Ruth Elsie Cave (1813) of South Australia and her husband Eric Carl Albert Berg. Ruth Elsie’s parents were John Rendall Cave (1877) and Elsie May Bissett. Then to William Rendall Cave (1841), of Martock SOM, and his wife Barbara Grierson of South Australia; Charles (1789), of Stoke sub Hamden SOM, and his wife Susan Darby and finally John (c1750), of Compton Dundon SOM, and his wife Sarah Hill of Pitney.
Andrew Newton (586) Andrew is “twice blessed”. He has two Cave lines within his ancestry.
His 11th Great Grandmother was Margaret Cave (c 1535) of Belgrave/Bargrave LEI who married Humphrey Babington of Rothley Temple LEI. Her parents were Dr Francis Cave (c 1525) and Margaret Lisle. Then to Richard (c 1500) and his 2nd wife Margaret Saxby; Thomas (c 1485) and his 1st wife Thomasine Passemere. This then takes it in to the main line (as described elsewhere) back to Jordayne of South Cave.
His 6th Great Grandmother was Elizabeth Cave (1700) of Leicester whose 2nd husband was Richard Danvers in 1732. Then to Robert (1675) of Leicester and his 1st wife Catherine Cheatle; Richard (1638) and his 2nd wife Elizabeth. Finally to William (c1600) and Margaret Boyleston
Jean May Golding (585) Cave of Beaconsfield BKM Jean May is descended from Anne Cave (1734), of ?London and Aylesbury, and her husband William HICKMAN of Aylesbury (married 1757 St Mary's Aylesbury). Anne’s parents were Charnell Cave (b Oct 1712 Beaconsfield, Died and Buried Oct 1737 Aylesbury) and Elizabeth (tbc SNOW). Then to George (born c1675, connected to Tetsworth, Oxford and died Beaconsfield 1716) and Sarah Barnett (died Aylesbury 1742 as Mrs Loddington); Subject to confirmation - George and Ellen Petty; John (c 1650), Rector of Middleton Cheney, and Ellen Davies; Richard, of Ingarsby, and Frances Dryden; Henry (1552) and Elizabeth Isham; Brian and Margaret Throckmorton; Richard and his second wife, Margaret Saxby. Then on to Thomas and Thomasine Passemere (as below).
Barbara Thew (584) Cave of Thorney CAM Barbara’s Gt Grandparents were Emily Cave (1834), of Wisbech, and her first husband Thomas Simpson. Then to George (1796), of Thorney, and Ann Hardy; Samuel (1757) and Anne Cobb; Thomas (1727), of Leicester (settled in Thorney c 1755) and Elizabeth Wagstaff; William (1698) and Jane Spencer; Thomas (c 1657) and his second wife Martha Loe. Thomas could be the son of Thomas (c 1635) who was born in Misterton LEI in January 1635/6. If this is the case then his parents were Thomas (c 1590) and Joan Parberry as listed below.
Clive Brunswick (583) Cave of Stanground HUN Clive is descended from Sophia Cave (c 1787) of Catworth HUN and William Bugby. Sophia is a daughter of William (1749) of Stanground HUN (Nr Peterborough). Then to William (c 1710/18) and Jane Berridge, a Miller of Peterborough and Stanground.
Deberah Hough (582) Cave of Sunderland DUR Deberah is descended from Elizabeth (1880) of Sunderland and her husband Thomas R Thompson, her Gt Grandparents. Then to Edward (c 1842) and Harriet Wilds. Edward appears to be the illegitimate son of Mary Ann/Maria (c 1825/6) of Gillingham DOR. If this is correct, the, she was a daughter of Henry (1799) and Mary. Then to Thomas (1756) and Ann Toogood of Gillingham; Charles (1721) and Grace Goddard; William (1673) and Sarah Stevens; John (c 1640) and Joan Sandell; John (1606) and Rachel; Morgan (1576) and Maud Davis. Finally, Robert (c 1540) and his wife Jane.
Lou Daly (581) Cave of South Kilworth LEI Lou is descended from Rebecca Cave (1794) of South Kilworth who married John Hill. Then to Jonathon (1773) and Mary Porter; Thomas and Elizabeth Ellson; Thomas (1700) and his second wife Mary Smith; Richard (1654), of Walcot, and Ann Brown; Thomas (1612) and Abigail Lord; Thomas (c 1590) and Joan Parberry; Thomas (c 1555) and Elizabeth Mawbee; Christopher (c 1520) and Agnes Catesby; Thomas (c1500); John (c 1475). Then to Thomas and Thomasine Passemere (as below).
John Hill (580) Cave of Stanford on Avon John is linked to the Cave family through Alice Cave (1617) of Stanford who married John Skeffington. Then to Sir William, of Stanford, and Elizabeth Danvers; Richard and his second wife, Margaret Saxby; Thomas and his first wife, Thomasine Passmere. This then follows the main line through to South Cave in Yorkshire.
Anthony Cave (579) – Cave of Owlpen Anthony is the eldest son of G Phillip H Cave (103). His grandfather was William Phillip Dagge Cave (1899) who married Frances Elizabeth Sterrey. Then to Henry Phillip (1859) of Norton Fitzwarren and Mary Ann Bridon; Phillip Dagge (1859) of Arlingham and Sarah Ann Wills; Thomas (1798) and Sarah; Phillip (1770) and his second wife Elizabeth Williams; Thomas (1722) and Sarah Gingell; Thomas (1685) of Owlpen and Elizabeth Butcher; Lionel (c 1657) and Jane; Lionel (c 1630). Finally a “possible” Lionel (c 1600) whose mother lived in Somersetshire.
Helen Rushton (578) – Cave of Birkenhead CHS Helen’s grandfather was Robert Cave (1880) who married Mary Jane Dawson. Then to Matthew (1838) of Formby LAN and Emma Brown; Richard (1803) and Alice Brown. Richard’s mother was Mary (bo c 1773) of Formby. Her parents were Thomas, a husbandman, born about 1750 and his wife Margaret Wright.
Robert Michael Cave (577) – Cave of Wolverhampton STS Robert’s father was Robert Ormande Cave (1916) of Calgary. Then to Sidney George (1888) of Wolverhampton; George (1864) of Penn STS and Ellen Winifred Steward; George (1838) of Wolverhampton and Emma Hill. Finally James and Eliza Jetson. James died prior to the 1841 Census but there is no record of death. Eliza married, secondly, to John Cockerill.
Natalie A Cookson (576) Natalie is descended from Annie Elizabeth cave (1842) of Owston Ferry who married Mark Buston (or Burton). Then to John (1813) and Martha Ingham; John (1783) and Sarah Andrews; Aaron (CY19) and Ann Smith; George (1713) of Walkeringham and Mary Ingham; Richard (1678/9) and Mary Horner. Finally Robert (c 1645) and his first wife Margaret Martin. (See Member 570 below).
Andrew Farrall (575) Cave of Upwell & Witchford CAM Andrew’s grandfather is Eric William Cave (1900) who was born in Shanghai and married to Mary Colleen Gorman in Bristol. Then to Herbert William (1860) of Upwell CAM and his first wife Fanny Gamble; John Prior Cave (1825) of Welney CAM and Elizabeth Webb; John (c 1780) of Witchford CAM and Susannah Gotobed; Thomas (1746) and Ann Pryor; John (1700) and Mary Hinde; William (1669) and Isabella Merry; Thomas (c 1647) and his first wife Ann Allome. There is indication that Thomas’s father is a William Cave.
Susan O’Rorke (574) Awaiting information. Rowena Cave (573) Awaiting information.
Barbara Forrest (572) Cave of Isle of Wight HAM Barbara is sister of Elizabeth Chaplin below.
Joan Redley (571) Cave of Sulgrave HAM Joan’s mother is Mary Ann Catherine Cave (1913-1992) who married Thomas Walter Prickett. Then to William Albert (1889) of St Olave Bermondsey LND and Charlotte Cole; George Jno (1886) and Mary Ann Tomlin; Thomas Henry ((1843) and Jane Hooper; John (1823) of Culworth NTH and Sarah Dean Matthews; Richard (1775) of Thorpe Malsor and Charlotte Pettifer; Richard (1751) and Elizabeth Ray; Thomas (1714) and Elizabeth; William (1685) and Joice; John (1661) of East Haddon and Elizabeth Seamark; John (1624) and Elizabeth Hide. Finally, at this stage, Valentine (c 1585) and Agnes Bate.
David Christopher Cave (570) Cave of Heckdyke LIN David’s grandparents are Harry (1892) and Ruth Smith. Then to George (1864) and Hannah Baker; Samuel (1836) and Sarah Wade; John (1812) and Martha Ingham.
Marcia Hardy (569) Cave of Isle of Wight HAM Marcia is descended from Frances Olive Cave (1907) of New Zealand. Her parents were Walter Robert (1863) of Caister (IoW) and Elizabeth Mitchell. Walter R had emigrated to New Zealand in the 1880’s. Then to Alfred Mark (1831) and Mary Drayton; George (1805) and Jane Downer; Mark (1782) of Newport and Frances Vanner; George (1755) and Jane Brine; Mark (1726) of Gatcombe and Mary; Thomas (1698) of Newport and Frances Allen; William (1666) of Whitwell and Elizabeth Warwick; Thomas (1634 and finally Thomas (1607) and Elizabeth Mundey.
Emma Restall Orr (568) Cave of Thorney CAM Emma is descended from Ada Cave (1861) of Thorney, who married Charles A Pilcher in 1896. Her parents were Arthur Bennet Cave (1831) and Frances Gorton. Then to George (1796) and Ann Hardy; Samuel (1757) and Anne Cobb; Thomas (1727) of Leicester, and Elizabeth Wagstaff; William (1698) and Jane Spencer; Thomas (c 1657) and his second wife, Martha Loe. At the moment we have Thomas (1635) who may have moved to Leicester from Walcot/South Kilworth in South Leicestershire. Emma will be my (HC) 4th cousin.
Jim Duggan (566) Cave of Desborough NTH Jim is carrying research for a member of the Haddon-Cave family.
Elizabeth Chaplin (566) Cave of Isle of Wight HAM Elizabeth has submitted a family group with her parents as William Percy (1907) and Maggie Tracey. Then to Archie William (1878) and Lydia Timson; William Benjamin (1854) and Fanny Chiverton; Edward (1822) and Ellen Toogood; Thomas (1775) and Jane. More work is being carried out on this lineage. Brenda Goodjohn (565) Cave of Culworth NTH Brenda’s parent’s were John Dryden Cave (1903) of Oldham LAN and Hilda Marsh. Then to John James (1870) of Northampton and Annie Isabel Willis; Albert (1847) of Brackley NTH and Mary Ellen Marriott; John (1823) of Culworth NTH and Sarah Dean matthews; Richard (1775) of Thorpe Malsor and Charlotte Pettifer; Richard (1751) and Elizabeth Ray; Thomas (1714) and Elizabeth; William (1685) and Joice; John (1661) of East Haddon and Elizabeth Seamark; John (1624) and Elizabeth Hide. Finally, at this stage, Valentine (c 1585) and Agnes Bate.
David Boyd (564) Cave of Manchester LAN David is, through his late step brother, interested in Frederick Clarence H Cave (1900) of Sharnbrook BDF and his second wife Jessie Watson. Then to Reginald Alfred S (1869) of Brixworth NTH and Constance Eva Harris; George (1829) Of Piddington NTH and A Heygate; George (1793) of Quinton and Ann Swannel; John (1754) and Elizabeth Newman; George (1733) of Roade and Mary Blunt; George (1695) and Ann Kilpinge;John Caves (1659) and Ann Boote. Finally to William Caves (c 1635) who was buried in Roade in 1665. John (1659), in his will of 1712, is named as Caves als Smith a Yeoman.
David Patten (563) Caves of Bedfordshire David has a gt gt grandfather, William Caves born 1858, Shifnall in Shropshire. His parents were James Caves (born c 1827) of Woburn Sands/Winfield or Aspley (depends on which census return is read). James married Ann Martin in Shifnall SAL on the 11Jul1853.
Arnaud C Aurejac (562) Cave of Yetminster DOR Arnaud is descended from Rosa Elizabeth Cave (1849) of Holborn LND who married Henry Davis on the 3rd of April1869 in Paris. Her father was John (1819) who married Elizabeth Catherine Woodford on the 13th of April 1841 in Dorchester DOR. His father William appears, according to the 1871 Census, to have been born in Yetminster DOR about 1789. He married a Susanna. They both died in Wellington in Somerset.
Andrew Haddon-Cave (561) Cave of Desborough NTH Andrew’s parents are David Noel Mostyn Haddon-Cave and Margaret Anne Ferguson. Then to Walter Henry Macnamara Haddon Cave (1902), of New South Wales, and Catherine Hutton; Phillip Haddon Cave (1871) and Sophia Maria Macnamara; Henry Haddon Cave (1837) and Mary Ann Branson; William Cave (1789) and Elizabeth Haddon; Lewis (1750) of Desborough and Ann Harris; Lewis (1710) and Ann Sansome; William (1678) and Jane East; William (1629), of Warkton NTH, and Dorothy Harrison; William (1579) and Alice; Lyon (c 1535( and Elizabeth Goodwyn; Richard (c 1515), of Little Oakley, and Elizabeth Montague; Sir Thomas (c 1500), of Oxford and Stanford on Avon, and Elizabeth Danvers; Richard Cave and his second wife, Margaret Saxby; Thomas Cave of Stanford on Avon and Thomasine Passemere. Through this line the family is then connected to the main line of Stanford on Avon and South Cave in Yorkshire.
(560) Rita Rodham (559) Cave-Browne-Cave Rita is descended from Julia Mead Cave-Browne-Cave (1834). She married The Rev Howard Gough. She was a daughter of The Rev William Astley C-B-C (1799) and his second wife Julia Minton. Then to Sir William C-B-C (1765) 9th Bt of Stanford on Avon and his second wife Louisa Wilmot; John Cave-Browne (1729) and his second wife Catherine Astley; Roger Cave (1700), of Eydon, and Catherine Browne; Sir Roger Cave (c 1675), 2nd Bt, and his second wife Mary Bromley; Sir Thomas Cave (1621), 1st Bt, and his second wife Penelope Wenman; Sir Thomas cave (1594), of Stanford, and Elizabeth Croft; Sir Thomas Cave (1562), of Stanford, and Eleanor St John; Roger Cave (c 1533), of Stanford, and Margaret Cecil (sister of 1st Lord Burghley); Sir Thomas Cave (c 1500) and Elizabeth Danvers; Richard Cave (c 1470) and his second wife Margaret Saxby; Thomas Cave (died 1495) and his first wife Thomasine Passemere. This line then continues back to Jordayne of South Cave YKS. Rita will then be related to Patricia Slatter (531).
Janet C Moore (558) No information.
Joan C Roberts (557) Cave of Swinford LEI Joan is descended from Kathleen May Cave (1920) of Swinford LEI. We then have Wilfred John (1892) and Kate Gates; William (1852) and Anne Barnett; George (1823) and Eliz; Charles (1799) and Mary Masters; Charles (1765) and Sarah Choice; John (1744) of Walton LEI and Ursula Jackson; Thomas (1700) and his second wife Mary Smith; Richard (1654) of Walcot LEI and Ann Brown;Thomas (1612) and Abigail Lord; Thomas (c 1590) and Joan Parberry; Thomas (c 1556) and Elizabeth Mawbee; Christopher (c 1525) of Walcot and Stanford on Avon and Agnes Catesby; Thomas of Stanford; John of Sinecross; Thomas (d 1495) and Thomasine Passemere.
Sharon Gardiner (556) Sharon has a half brother, Peter Cave (1969). His father is Brian Peter (1938). Brian is 4 x gt grandson of Thomas (c 1763) of Monks Kirby and his second wife Ann Lane. Then down through Christopher (1804) and Sarah Peasenhall and Joseph (1824) and Ann Glen. More information is needed to complete this lineage.
Edward Cave (555) No information.
Charmaine Cave (554) Cave of Kirkdale LAN Text withdrawn.
Jean Jacobs (553) Cave of Paddington LND Jean (1952) is the daughter of John Charles (274).
Ronald Cave (552) Cave of Paddington LND Related to Jean, above, and John Charles (274) and Ronald Colin (275) below.
June Preedy (551) Cave of Spalding LIN and Bulwick NTH June is descended from Susan Ann Cave (1873) of Spalding. Susan’s parents were Henry James (18360, of Whaplode Drove, and Mary Johnston. Then to William 1809, of Crowland, and Susannah Shortland/Shortling; Robert (1759), of Leverington Cambs (but born in Bulwick), and Sarah Carnel; Robert (1732), of Bulwick NTH, and Ann Oldfield; Robert (c 1700) and Elizabeth Freasour; Robert (1676) and Ursula Bruce; Robert (1640) and Agnes. Finally to William (c 1610) and Elizabeth. Roger Lee Robison (550) Cave of Virginia USA Roger is descended from Virginia Gaston Cave. Then James Gaston Cave; James McClellan Cave; James Cave; Samuel Cave. Finally Thomas Cave who was born c 1720 in Prince George County Maryland and died in Stafford County Virginia in 1787. More details will be published later.
Christine Elizabeth Ross (549) Cave of London Christine is the daughter of the son of George John Henry Cave (1884) of St Olave and Elizabeth Patey. Finally George John (c 1860) and Mary Ann Tomlin.
Ivan C H Cave (548) Cave of Leigh in Yetminster DOR Ivan’s parents were Charles Henry Cave (1885) of Wimbourne DOR and his 2nd wife Dorothy Lucy Mitchell. Then to Edward William (1849) and Marcelia Martin; Edward H (1822) and Mary Furber Richards; Edward William (1796) and Elizabeth Gale; Edward (1758) and Edith Cave; John (c 1723) and Elizabeth Keech. Then, possibly but not proven, his grandparents were Thomas (c 1668) and Elizabeth of Fordington. Then to William (1631); John (liv 1672) and Eleanor Taunton. Finally Roger (c1590) of Leigh in Yetminster DOR
Paula Aldred (547) Cave of Leicester Paula is descended from Annie Cave (1888) who married George Smith. Her parents were Arthur (1864) and Emma Carroll. Then to William (1839) and Catherine Tailby; William (1812) and Mary Bird; Jarvis (1779) and Elizabeth Mowland; Jarvis (1752) and Jane Johnson; Thomas (1722) and Ann Watson; Thomas (1695) and Mary Smith; Thomas (c 1657) and his second wife Martha Loe. Then Thomas (c1635) who is most probably from Walcot in South Leicestershire.
Ellie King (546) Ellie’s (Eleanor Jane Alexandra King) mother is Judith Helen Hayward Cave (1952). Judith has direct Cave ancestry to Francis Herbert Hayward Cave(1884) and Nellie White; James Hamblett Cave (1842) and his second wife Isabella Hayward; John Hamblett Cave (1815) and Sarah Hambleton. Finally to James Cave (1775) and Ann Woods.
Tracie Alice Cave (545) Cave of West Ham ESS/LND Tracie’s father is Robert Charles William Cave (1941) of Australia. His parents were Robert Leonard (1905), of West Ham, and Constance Mavis Tipping. Then Charles William (1859) and Henrietta Blishen. Further research is being undertaken.
Barbara J Smith (544) Caves of Bradden NTH Barbara is descended from Sarah Caves who may have been born in Bradden NTH in 1805. She married George Bleek of Weston NTH. She was a daughter of Joseph Caves who married Charlotte Button on the 29th of May 1804. Further research is being carried out.
Michael Bradshaw (543) Cave of Upton HUN Michael has direct Cave ancestry to Ernest William Cave (1895), of Wilbarston NTH, and Margaret Mary Stearne. Then to George Cave (1866) and Martha Ellen Tirell; William Marshall Cave (1831), of Upton HUN, and Ann Swingler; William Cave (1797), of Sawtry HUN, and Mary Ann Marshall. Finally William Cave who died in Upton in 1848 and his wife Elizabeth. Heather Cave (542) Cave of Virginia Heather’s parents were William Dawson Cave (1928), of Washington DC, and Gertrude Luba Standish. Then to Arnold Blackwell Cave (1890) and Clarinda Adelaide Millar; Belfield Dawson Cave (1864) and Mayfield Columbia Kilby; Wesley Cave (c 1813) of Shenandoah VA and Mary Elizabeth Milton; Jonas Cave (1784), of Madison Co VA, and Sarah Valentine; John Cave (1758) and Catherine; Joseph Cave (1712) and Mary Jenkins. Finally to John Cave (c 1637). It is believed that this John Cave was transported to North America by a John Foxhall – specifically to lands between the Potomac and Rappahannock rivers. If this is the case then John could be a son of Samuel Cave and Rachel Kellog of Essex County in England. Heather is a niece of Arnold Blackwell Cave (1925) of Virginia. His father was Arnold Blackwell Cave (1890), of Culpeper County VA.
Margaret Bird (541) Cave of Kings Stanley GLS Margaret is descended from Ada Alice Cave the widow of Alfred James Cave, of Kingstanley, after she married Edward Fletcher in 1917. Alfred’s parents were Charles James (1849) and Elizabeth Howell. Then to John (1819) and Susan Webb; Charles (1780) of Avening and Ann Beard. Finally Thomas (c1760) of Avening and Mary Cornock.
Cathy Allen (540) Cave of West Stour DOR Cathy (1959) has direct Cave ancestry to Joseph Edward Cave (1909) and his first wife Florence Ellen Louise Holes. Then to William Charles Cave (1880), of Parkstone DOR, and Ann Haynes; William Henry Cave (1853) and Sarah Maria Cole; Charles Davis Cave (1821), of Yarlington SOM, and Anne Wells Cobb; George Parsons Cave (1793), of West Stour DOR, and Amelia Davis; Thomas (1769), of Lydlinch DOR, and Mary Parsons. Finally, possibly, John (1730) and Eliza.
Roger Cave (539) Cave of Sulgrave NTH Roger has direct Cave ancestry to his grandparents were Horace Wilfred Cave (1897) and Annie May Quartly. Then to Llewellyn (18621 and Jane Kilby; John Cave (1821) and Sarah Dean Matthews; Richard cave (1775), of Thorpe Malsor, and Charlotte Pettifer; Richard Cave (1751) and Elizabeth Ray; Thomas Cave (1714) and Elizabeth; William Cave (1685) and Joice; John Cave (1661) of East Haddon, and his first wife Elizabeth Seamark; John Cave (1624) and Elizabeth Hide. Finally Valentine Cave (c 1585) and Agnes Bate.
Hilary Cave (538) Cave of Richmond SRY Hilary has direct Cave ancestry to her grandparents, Alfred Cyril Cave (1878), of Richmond SRY and Sylvia N Norman. Further information is awaited.
Sue Cave (537) Cave of ? Waiting information. Stuart Derek Cave (536) Cave of Ibstock LEI Waiting information.
James Winford Cave (535) Cave of Virginia James’s parents were Walter Thomas (1912) and Maude Hazel Cottrell. Then to Emory Lee Cave (1879) and Lillie Bennett; James Clark Cave (1838) and Nancy Shiveley; Abner Cave (c 1785) and his second wife Elizabeth Booton; William Cave (1738) and Jeriah. Finally Robert Cave (d 1755) of Culpeper County Virginia and his wife Mary.
Susan Marshall (534) Cave of Hunslett YKS Susan is descended from Annie Elizabeth Cave (1854) who married Malcolm Alexander Campbell in 1884. Her parents were James (1818) and Lydia Bullough. Then to John (1776) and Dinah Rollinson; John (1753) and his first wife; John (1708); Anthony (1680) and Anne Saxton of Rothwell YKS. Finally to John (c 1650).
Tammy DeSanto (533) Cave of Scotland Tammy’s parents are Thomas Charles Cave (1949) and his first wife Beth Weirsma. Then to David John (1910) and Sally Wirczorek; Charles Willoughby Cave (1873) and his first wife Elizabeth Dinwoody; John (c 1854) who married Robina Willoughby in Newton Stewart in Scotland in 1873. John was an illegitimate son of John (c 1830) and Barbara Neil.
Lynette K Edsall (532) Cave of Virginia Lynette is descended from Grace Effie Cave (1897), of Buena Vista County Iowa, who married Claud Emerson Young. Her parents were George Washington Cave (1848), of Washington County Ohio, and Martha Alice Ogle. Then to Pollard cave (1821), of Virginia, and Sibyl Thompson and finally John Cave who was born in Virginia in 1787. He died in 1862 in Muskingham County Ohio.
Patricia Slatter (531) Cave-Browne-Cave Patricia is descended from Julia Mead Cave-Browne-Cave (1834), of Flixton LAN, who married The Rev Howard Gough. Her parents were The Rev William Astley C-B-C (1799) and his second wife Julia Minton. Then to Sir William C-B-C (1765) 9th Bt of Stanford on Avon and his second wife Louisa Wilmot; John Cave-Browne (1729) and his second wife Catherine Astley; Roger Cave (1700), of Eydon, and Catherine Browne; Sir Roger Cave (c 1675), 2nd Bt, and his second wife Mary Bromley; Sir Thomas Cave (1621), 1st Bt, and his second wife Penelope Wenman; Sir Thomas cave (1594), of Stanford, and Elizabeth Croft; Sir Thomas Cave (1562), of Stanford, and Eleanor St John; Roger Cave (c 1533), of Stanford, and Margaret Cecil (sister of 1st Lord Burghley); Sir Thomas Cave (c 1500) and Elizabeth Danvers; Richard Cave (c 1470) and his second wife Margaret Saxby; Thomas Cave (died 1495) and his first wife Thomasine Passemere. This line then continues back to Jordayne of South Cave YKS.
Paul L Cave (530) Cave of Leeds YKS Paul has direct Cave ancestry to William Henry Cave (1886) and Beatrice Emily Jones; John Henry (1863) of Caldecott RUT and Mary Parker of Leeds; Valentine (1842 and Elizabeth Dexter; Henry (1815) and Sarah Deacon of Uppingham RUT; John (1780) and Hannah Branson of Duddington NTH. Finally John (1747) and Elizabeth Hibbins of Keyston HUN. Peter C H Cave (529) Cave of Thorney CAM. Peter is a grandson of the Secretary (Hugh Cave). As such he has direct Cave ancestry to Hugh Cave (1902) and Cecilia P O'Brien; Hugh (1865) and Winifride Hammond; Hugh (1832) and Elizabeth Hare; William (1786) and Mary Maguire; Samuel (1757) and Anne Cobb; Thomas (1726/7) and Elizabeth Wagstaffe. There is now a problem as this Thomas could have been born in either Woburn in Bedfordshire in 1726 or Leicester in 1727. the DNA analysis suggests the latter. If this is the case then his father would be William (1698) and Jane Spencer. Then to Thomas (c 1657) and his second wife Martha Loe. It appears that his father is Thomas Cave who may have been born about 1635, possibly in South Kilworth. This has to be proved.
R Bartlett Cave (528) Waiting details.
Eileen M Robison (527) Cave of Piddington NTH Eileen is descended from Ann Cave (c 1790) of Piddington, who married Abraham Abbot in 1811. Her parents were, John (1754) of Roade NTH and Elizabeth Newman. Then to George (1733) and Mary Blunt; George (1695) and Ann Kilpinge; John Caves (1659) and Ann Boote; William (c 1630) and Mary.
Philip N Cave (526) Cave of Halsall LAN Philip has direct Cave ancestry to to Thomas Frederick Cave(1898) of Newton le Willows LAN and Elsie Elizabeth Mitchell; Thomas Ashton (1869) of Warrington and Elizabeth Aspinall; Thomas (1843) of Little Woolton LAN and his first wife Elizabeth Ashton. It is then believed that Thomas is the son of Elizabeth Cave (1823) of Halsall.
Geoffrey Cave (525) Cave of Misterton and Walcot LEI Geoffrey has direct Cave ancestry to Thomas Cave (1877) of Leicester and Mary Elizabeth Potter; Tom (1851) of Market Harborough and Emily Tyers; William (1821) of Misterton and his first wife Mary Staines; David (1800) and Frances Hackett; William (c1778) and Elizabeth Deacon.
Judith Barker (524) Judy is descended from Mary Jane Cave (1871) of Markfield who married (c1890) Rayner Barker. Brian Coleman (523) Brian is descended from Frances Cave (1785) of March CAM, who married William Laxon in 1812. Her parents were Watson (1756) and Hannah Howard of Peterborough. Then to George (1715), of Caldecott (RUT), and Mary; Thomas (1669), of Kettering (NTH), and Bridget Bull; Thomas (1632), of Thorpe Malsor (NTH) and Ann; Robert (1590) and Susannah Watkin; Thomas (1544) and Prudence Booth; John, who died in 1593 and his first wife, Margaret. John's father was still living in 1547 but his name is not known, his mother being Margaret; lastly John (The Elder) who died in 1557. It is possible that his son's name was also John.
Robin Cave (522) Cave of Monks Kirby (WAR) and Bedford Robin has direct Cave ancestry to Arthur Cave(1890) of Thurleigh and Lily Reed; Thomas (1842) of Barwell and Edith Bulmer; Joseph (1809) and Mary Simmons; Thomas (c1763) and his second wife Ann Lane where they married in Croxton Kerrial in 1794. Robin is brother to Philippa McCray (68).
Lesley Cave (521) Cave of Coventry WAR Lesley is the wife of Michael John Cave who has direct ancestry Cave to Edward Leonard (1899) of Coventry and Doris Maud Warden; Alfred (1854) and Jane Randle; Charles (1825) and Ann Maria Cormick; Edward (1800) and Mary Ann Newman; Edward (c1772) and Ann Wickson. It is possible that this Edward was born in Gilmorton in 1773 with father Richard (1731) and wife Ann. Then to Richard (c 1700) of Bruntingthorpe, and Elizabeth Smart.
Ray Needham (520) Cave of Lutterworth LEI and Leicester Ray’s mother was Winifred Stretton Cave who married in Lutterworth in 1918. Her father was James (1866) and his wife, Elizabeth Ratcliffe, of Leicester. Then to Henry (1842 and Elizabeth Levis;William (1812) and Mary Bird; Jarvis (1778) and Elizabeth Mowland; Jarvis (1752) and Jane Johnson; Thomas (1722) and Ann Watson; Thomas (1695) and his first wife Mary Smith;Thomas (c1657) and his second wife Martha Loe. This Thomas was the a son of Thomas who may have been born c 1635 in Walcot.
Peter Cave (519) Cave of London and NSW. Peter’s parents are Frederick David (1920) and Betty Phelan, of New South Wales. Then to Frederick Henry (1883) of Sydney and Grace Hawkins; George Frederick (1853) of Hackney and Jane Ling; William Frederick (1823) of St Olave’s Hart Street London and Maria Giles; John Jefferson (1801) who married Sarah Parks in 1821 in Christchurch Newgate London. Then to William (1772) and Sarah Jefferson; John (1748) and Rebecca Saunders; William (c 1723) a Coppersmith of Smithfield and, possibly, his wife Mary Brocks of Oxford.
Susan Stone (518) Cave of London Susan is descended from James Robert (1890) of Fulham and Caroline Matthews. Then to James (1856) and Ellen Sullivan; Robert (1816) and Mary Elizabeth Shuker and Robert’s father James.
Tim Budd (517) Cave of Beckley OXF Tim's mother is Margery Cave born 1914 in Norwood MDX. Her parents were Frank Norman (1875) of Wandsworth and Alice Jinks. Then to Frederick (1839) of Richmond and Wandsworth and Caroline Hassell; Thomas Cave (1812) of Beckley and Eliza Mary White. Thomas’s parents were John and Mary of Beckley OXF.
Wendy Schmutz (516) Cave of Thornton LEI Wendy is descended fro Mary Cave who married Joseph Stanton on the 5th of December 1819. She died before 1842 in Claybrooke LEI and is thought to have been born before 1805 in Leicestershire!
Revd Julie Cave (515) Cave of London Julie’s father is Alec (1919). His parents were William Alfred (1885) and Dorothy V Kedzie. Then William Joseph (1852) and Emma Edwards of Lambeth.
Brenda J Grace (514) Cave of Cheddington BKM Brenda’s grandmother was Elizabeth Annie (1868) of Cheddington. Her parents were Charles (1853) born in Horton BKM and Elizabeth Urnell. They were married in Leighton Buzzard in1855. His parents were Benjamin (1786) of Lutterworth and Elizabeth born in Ivinghoe BKM.
Malcolm E Watson-Cave (513) Cave of London Malcolm is the son of Bernard L A Cave (1931). His parents were Arnold G (1899) and Hilda Harris.
Anthony Carter (512) Cave of Rushden NTH Anthony (Tony) is descended from Ethel Beatrice Cave (1891) of Rushden. Her parents were John (1866) and Eliza Elizabeth Lewis. Then to George (1837) and Charlotte Riddle; John (bo c 1790-95) in Papworth HUN and his second wife Sarah Poole (nee Hughes).
Gregory A Cave (511) Chatteris CAM Gregory’s father was Hubert Rex Cave (1929) of West Australia, who married Maxine Fay Davey. Then to Robert (1893) of Chatteris and Mary Hinds; Herbert (1872) and Julia Russell; James (1834) and Susan; James Cave-Beck (1799) and Elizabeth Garrett; Robert (1747) and his “unofficial” partner Charlotte Beck; Matthew Cave (1709) of Witchford CAM and Margaret Everitt; William (1669) and Isabella Merry; Thomas (c1647) and his first wife Ann Allome. Then finally, possibly, William of Witchford.Gregory is brother of Valeri Pain (508) below. Joanne Siverns (510) Lutterworth LEI Joanne is descended from Kathleen May Cave (1920), daughter of Wilfred John Cave (1892), of Lutterworth, and Kate Gates. Then to William Cave (1852) and Anne Barnett; George Cave (18230 and Elizabeth; Charles Cave (17990 of Swinford and Mary Masters; Charles cave (1765) and Sarah Choice; John Cave (1744) of Walton and Ursula Jackson; Thomas Cave (1700) and his second wife Mary Smith; Richard Cave (1654) of Walcot and Ann Brown; Thomas Cave (1612) and Abigail Lord; Thomas Cave (c 1595) and Joan Parberry; Thomas Cave (c 1555) and Elizabeth Mawbee; Christopher Cave (c 1520) of Stanford and Walcot and Agnes Catesby. This then leads, through Thomas Cave and John Cave of Sinecross into the main Cave line of Stanford on Avon and South Cave in Yorkshire.
Linda Lines (509) Croxton Kerrial and Newbold WAR Linda is descended from Lucy Sophia Cave (1861) of Newbold WAR, who married Charles William Elliott in 1883. Her parents were Joseph (1824) and Ann Glen. Then Christopher (1824) and Sarah Peasenall; Thomas (1763) of Croxton Kerrial, and his second wife Ann Lane.
Valerie J Pain (508) Chatteris CAM Valeri is the sister of Gregory Cave, (511) above, and as such she will have the same lineage.
Richard H Spencer (507) Ibberton GLS Richard is descended from Elizabeth Jane Cave (1884) of Fareham DOR who married Jasper Spencer. Her parents were Henry (1862) and Annie D White then John (1816) and Elizabeth. Then, possibly, George (c17900 and Maria.
Linda Wilson (506) Leicester Linda is linked to Leah Cave (1886) and Winifred Stretton Cave (1899) of Leicester. Their parents were James (1866 and Elizabeth Ratcliff. More information is being searched for.
Shelagh A Clark-Heywood (505) Aston WAR Shelagh’s father was Sidney William Cave (1912) of Aston, who married Eileen Maud Allington-Clark in 1937, Fort William India. His parents were William Thomas (1887) and Elizabeth Brook(e)s Finally Thomas (1847) and Harriet Yarrington.
Deborah Cave Higgins (504) New Jersey USA and Gedling NTT Deborah Ann’s father was Richard Howett Cave (1930) of Springfield MA who married Roxanne Belnap Cook. Then to Victor Howett Cave (1905) of Hartford CT and Deborah Shaffer; Henry (1874) of Nottingham, England and Janette D Houston of Elizabeth NJ, USA. Henry’s parents were Thomas (1833) of Gedling NTT and Hannah Mary Howett; Thomas (1803) and Ann Hearson; Thomas (1771) and Elizabeth Taylor. Finally Francis (c 1740) and his second wife Anne Shelton.
Philip Hunt (503) Cave of Great Houghton NTH Philip is descended from Mildred Millicent Cave (1883) of Cambridge who married Edgar W B Hunt in 1905. Mildred is descended from Thomas (1856) and Nancy Emily Drage; Richard (1820), of Great Houghton, and Sarah Richardson; John (1788)and Mary Walker then Richard (1747) and Ann Thomas. Suzanne Davidson (502) Cave of London Suzanne’s mother is Pamela Joyce Cave (1932). Her Grandfather was Leslie Phillip Cave (1892), of Birmingham and Emily Beardmore then to Phillip Henry (1868) of Watford and Ellen; William Henry (1838), of Kings Langley HRT, and Elizabeth Lucy Martin; William (1814), of St Albans HRT, and Fanny.
Sharon Green (501) Cave of London Sharon’s father is Leonard Harry Cave (1926) then to Harry William (1901), of Southwark LND, and Florence Ellen Forman; William Edward (1875), of Islington LND, and Harriet Dumbrill; Silas William (1843) and Sarah Clow; Samuel (c 1812) and Sophia Lyns then Silas (c 1798) and Ann Lewis.
Debra Mc Master (500) Cave of Liverpool LAN Debra is descended from John Francis Cave (1908) of Liverpool LAN then George James (1882) and Lizzie Wray; Richard James (18550; James (1829) and Ann finally James who died by 1862 and Mary. James was a Liverpool Timber Merchant and had interests in the West Indies.
Wesley K Moore (499) Stagsden BDF Wesley’s grandmother was Stella Eliza Cave (1895) who married George John Moore. Stella is descended from William Thomas cave (1861) and E Marchant. Then to Thomas (1834) and Eliza Boston; George Caves (17920 of Cardington and Ann Benson and John caves (c1765) of Ampthill and Mary Giddings.
Allan Cave (498) Bulwick NTH Waiting confirmation.
Michael Formstone (497) Leicester Michael is the brother of a much earlier member, Ralph (116). They are descended from Margery Cave (1920) who married Edward Ralph Formstone. She is descended from Harry Urban 1882 and Annie Tushingham; Sylvanus John (1847) and his second wife Mary ann Burchall; William (1818) and Elizabeth Heath; Sylvanus Urban (1796) and his first wife Jane Cooling; William (1753) and his second wife Elizabeth Hewitt; William (1719) and Elizabeth Smith; William (c 1695) of Rugby and Judith Robbits; Joseph (1665) of Churchover WAR and Hester: Edward (1640) of Cadney LIN and his first wife Abigail; Nicholas (c1610) of Cadney and his wife Joan Dobson. This Edward (1640) is Edward The Printer of Caves Inn, Watling Street, Churchover. Sally Cave (496) Thornton LEI Sally’s father was Richard Joseph (1924). Then to Francis (1882) and Ethel; Joseph (18490 and Mary; Thomas (1808) and his second wife Ann Bott; Varney (1785) and Susannah (Suky) Jacques and finally Obediah ( 1749 and Mary Varney.
Graham Barker (495) Leicester Graham is descended from Elizabeth Cave (1856) who married Thomas Norman. Then to James (1827) and Naomi Clarke: James (1802) and Elizabeth Freestone; Jarvis (1778) and Elizabeth Mowland; Jarvis (1752) and Jane Johnson; Thomas (1722) and Ann Watson; Thomas (1695) and Mary Smith; Thomas (c1657) and his second wife Martha Lowe; Thomas (c1635) who may be from South Kilworth.
Trevor A Cave (494) Coventry WAR Trevor’s father was Thomas Arthur (1909) and mother Gertrude May Cole. Thomas was descended from Arthur George (1877) and Rose May Curtis; Thomas (1841) and his second wife, Emma Louise Harrison; Thomas (1815) and Elizabeth Taylor; John (1779) and Johanna Brown then John, his father who died before 1793.
Phillip Cave (493) Ditcham Park and Worcester Phillip’s father is descended from Simon Charles (1938). Simon is descended from Sir Richard Phillip (1912) and Mary Percival; Charles John Phillip (1871) and Wilhelmina M H Kerr; Laurence trent (1824) and his second wife Lucy Greenwood; Charles (1796) and Sarah Cumberbatch (of Barbados); Stephen (of Cleve Hill, Bristol) (1763) and Anne Daniel. This is then the main Cave Line of the Caves of Bristol and Worcestershire.
James Cave Avery (492) Newington LND James mother was Doris Amy Cave (1905). Doris was then descended from James Eli (1879) and Amy Edwards; Silas William (1843) and Sarah Clow; Samuel (c1811 and Sophia Lyns then Silas (c 1789) and Ann Lewis (w).
Sarah Chanin (491) Upton cum Chaveley BKM Sarah is descended from Emma Annie Jane Cave (1840) of Datchett who married Joseph James Lawrence in 1861. (Cousin to 489 Theresa Goss and 485 Julie Lawrence). Emma’s parents were Samuel (1805) and Ann Allum then Joseph (c1763) who married Mary Horrod 1782 in Cowley, MDX.
Christopher P Pope (490) Christopher is descended from Mary Elizabeth Cave(1842) who married John Insall in 1864. Mary is then descended from William (1807) of Nympsfield and Caroline Mills; Thomas (1758) of Owlpen and his second wife Elizabeth Deane; Thomas (1722) and Sarah Gingell; Thomas (1685) and Elizabeth Butcher; Lionel (bo c 1657) and Jane; and Lionel who helped supply the Owlpen Light Horse Militia in 1662 and 1663
Theresa Goss (489) Upton cum Chaveley BKM Theresa has the same lineage as Sarah Chanin (491) above.
Rosa Pattison (488) Great Houghton NTH Rosa is descended from Beatrice Cave (1907) who married Henry Taylor in 1939. Beatrice’s parents were William Wardle Cave (1867) and (I think) Florence Jane Battinson; then William (1840) of Great Houghton and Sarah Jane Wardle; Benjamin (1798) and Elizabeth Briggs; Benjamin (1754) and his second wife Hannah Tew and finally Joseph who died in 1789 and his wife Ann Whitmey. Gerry Ranftl (487) Gainsborough LIN Lexie, the wife of Gerry is descended from Dulcie Doreen Cave (1913) of Carrant VIC (AUS) and her second husband Walter Thomas Smith. Then Gainsborough Lincoln Cave (1870) and Elizabeth Margaret May; George (1824) of Gainsborough and Catherine Susan Milburne; John (1786) of Walkeringham and Lucy Welton; John 1762) and Ann; Henry (1719) and his second wife Mary Coulter; Thomas (1690) of Mattersley LIN and Elizabeth Woodhouse; Thomas (1638) and Ann; Henry (1602) of Doddington LIN and Mercy, and finally Edward (c1580) and Agnes.
Peter Greed (486) Catworth and Stanground (HUN) Peter is descended from Sophia Cave (c1787), of Catworth (HUN) who married William Bugby in 1804. Her father was William (1749), then William of Stanground (HUN) and his wife Jane. They had married in 1739 and he paid Window Tax in 1746. William was buried in 1752. Very little is known about this little group.
Julie Lawrence (485) Julie is linked to the Cave-Browne Cave’s through Edmund Verney of Claydon House who was killed at Edgehill. Julie is a cousin of Sarah Chanin (491) and Theresa Goss (489) and shares trhe same Cave family group.
Phillip Whitehead (484) Stilton (HUN) and Bulwick (NTH) Phillips Gt Gt Grandfather, John Whitehead, married Catherine Cave (1797) of Stilton. Her parents were Austin (1762) and Ann Jackson. Then to Paul (1715) of Bulwick and Catherine Austin; Robert (1676) and Ursula Bruce; Robert (1640) and Agnes and finally William of Bulwick, who was buried 1652, and Elizabeth. Interesting point, John and Catherine had a daughter, Mary Ann, who married her first cousin William Mason Cave (1842) in Stilton. Their descendants were John Mason Lyon Cave (1871) and Charles Aubrey Cave (1900).
Rebecca Ann Verkade-Cave (483) Swinford and Yelvertoft Rebecca’s father is Brian Cave (1932), then to Albert Walter Jonathan (1899); Albert Ernest (1874) of Eltham; Jonathan (1831) of Swinford and his 2nd wife Eliza Davis; Jacob (1795) of Yelvertoft NTH and Mary Atkins; William (1747) of Claycoton NTH and his 2nd wife Dorcas Hobley; Thomas (1693) and Ann Curtis; Reverend John (c1666) (Rector of Catthorpe 1686) and Frances Hull.
Simon J Cave (482) Ditcham, Bristol and Worcester Simon is a member of the family group that was based at Ditcham Park. His parents were Hugh Ernest (1900), then to Charles John Phillip (1871) and Wilhelmina M H Kerr; Laurence Trent (1824) and his 2nd wife Lucy Greenwood; Charles (1796) of London and Sarah Cuberbatch of Barbados; Stephen (1763) of Cleve Hill bristol and Anne Daniel; John (1763) of Arnos Vale and Susannah Cox; Edward (1712) of Pool Hall Bromyard and Mary Hallward; Walter (1686) of Avenbury and Hannah; William (1645) of Martley, Worcester, and Elizabeth Ingram. This line then goes back to Thomas Cave who married Lucy a daughter of John Seton in the 13th Century.
T Randall Cave (481) Virginia and South Carolina Randall’s father is D Wheaton cave (1928) and grandfather John B (1875) of South Carolina. Then to James B (1837); John Bunyon (1799) and Elizabeth Rountree; Benjamin (c1780) of South Carolina and Elizabeth Rountree and finally (at the moment) John (c 1745) of Virginia. Barbara M Cave (480) Manchester LAN Barbara is descended from Kevin Gerard Dooge (Cave) (1913) and Rose McKenzie. Then to John (1868) and Theresa Ann D’Hoogh; Alexander (1845) and Margaret Conroy; George (1813) and Elizabeth. This George was a Tailor of Broughton nr Manchester and died in 1849.
Constance Cave Verre (479) Iowa USA Constance’s father is/was Henry John Cave (1913) of Worthing Minnesota. He is descended from Charles A Cave (1882) of Iowa and then Theodore Cave (1857) also of Iowa. No further details are available at this time.
Nicholas Balding (478) Cave of Beenham & Newbury BRK Nicholas’s Gt Gt Gt Grandfather is Richard Balding (1784) of Newbury. He had a brother and sister who both married into the Cave family. Thomas Balding married Mary Ann Cave (1811) of Beenham, and William Cave (1817) of Padworth married Sarah Balding. Thanks to Nicholas we now have confirmed a large family group who were farmers around Newbury, Padworth, Speen, Thatcham, Hungerford and Kingsclere and Rickmansworth in Hertfordshire. This is all portrayed on Table DQ of the Pedigree Charts.
David Cave (477) Chiselhurst KEN David is the son of Harvard Wells Cave (1892) and Matilda Marguerite Harris of Canterbury. His lineage then goes on to William John (1854) and Eleanor Hogg; Rev Thomas Wells Cave (1822) and his first wife Jane Mills; John (1796); Samuel (1769) and Anne Wells; Samuel (1736) of York and Mary Gibbs; Thomas (1715) and his first wife Ann Simpson; Thomas (1686) and Hannah Rodley; Edward (1644) of Rothwell and Dorothy Swinsdon.
Caroline Medhurst (476) London & Leicester Caroline is descended from Denis Otway Cave (1897) and Jean Bryan of Derby. Then to Harry Jarvis Otway Cave (1872) of Kensington where he was a “spec builder” and contractor, and his wife Mabel Edith Record; Edward Jarvis Cave (1841) of Leicester and his first wife Elizabeth Ann (1842) of Roach in Cornwall. Edward Jarvis was also a builder who moved to London in the mid 19th Century. It is believed that he could have been born and baptised as Jarvis in Leicester in 1840.
Irene A Smith (475) Stanton and Bardon LEI Irene’s father is/was Ellis Henry Cave (1910). We then go to Ellis Henry (1873) and Julia Gregory; Varney (1845) and Mary Ann Holmes; John (1804) and Ann Gibson; Varney (1785) and Susannah (Sukey) Jacques and finally Obadiah (1749) and Mary Varney.
Ernest W Cave (474) Stanton and Bardon LEI Ernest has the same family. His father was Varney (1886) then to Varney (1845) and Mary Ann Holmes; John (1804) and Ann Gibson; Varney (1785) and Susannah (Sukey) Jacques and finally Obadiah (1749) and Mary Varney.
Lynna Kay Shuffield (473) South Carolina and Mississppi Lynna is a daughter of Betty Knight Shuffield (390). She is descended from Martha Cave (1827) and her 1st husband James S Knight. Then Henry W Cave (1800) and Nancy Jane Bass; John (1774) and Lucinda Causey; John (1757) and Sarah Wilson Brown. For details of location see Betty K Shuffield (390).
John Sidney Cave (472) John has two Cave lines. First his father, Sidney George (1911) who was descended from James Joseph (1883), of Birmingham. Then to John Thomas (1841) of Laxton in Northants and Priscilla Rollins; Thomas (1809) of Caldecott Rutland, and Mary Chambers; William (1789) and Mary Morris; John (1761) and Frances Ward; Samuel (1730) and Anne Ward; William (1701) and Elizabeth Stokes; Thomas (1669) and Bridget Bull; Thomas (1632) and Ann; Robert (15900 and Susannah Watkin; Thomas, of Thorpe Malsor, 1544 and Prudence Boote; John (died 1593) and his first wife Margaret and finally (possibly John The Elder) who was buried 1557. His mother was Lily May Caves (1913). Her father was William Thomas (1874) of Birmingham and her mother Ann Maria Handley. then to Frederick John (1853), of Ealing, and Ellen Tracy; John (1823) and Mary Ann Peyton. The latter John's mother was Mary Ann Cave.
David J Cave (471) Bracknell Berkshire The Rev David is The son of John James (1920), of Winchester. His Grandfather is Charles James Dashwood Cave (1878) of Redgrave (Isle of Wight) and his wife Gladys Annie Wasley. Then to Charles James (1844), Bracknell, and Fanny Tucker; Charles (1810) and Elizabeth Ann; James (1782) and Sarah Hare; John Thumwood (1783), Yateley and Anne Terry; john (1695), Elvetham, and Mary Thumwood; William (1666) and Elizabeth; William (1621), Yateley, and Rebecca Swayne; William (c1590) and Ann Mascal; Anthony (c 1570), London, and Ann Morley (marr 1619); Richard (c1525), Pickwell Leicestershire, and Barbara Fielding; Richard (d 1538), Stanford on Avon, and Margaret Saxby; Thomas (d 1495) and Thomasine Passmere. This line is then in the main Cave family to Wyamarus and Jordayne of South Cave Yorks.
Neil J Menage (470) Cave of Somerset and Nottingham Neil’s mother was Dorothy Cave (c1926). Her father was Leonard Arthur (1899) and Elsie of Nottingham, then to Thomas George M Cave (1871) of Bridgewater and Lizzie; George (c1851-1853) of Ireland who married Eliza Jane Mundy in 1871; George (c1812) and possibly Agnes Norman.
Richard H Cave (469) of Sidbury Manor Devon Richard is the 4th son of the late Sir Charles E C Cave 4th Bt of Sidbury Manor in Devon. His grandfather was Sir Edward Charles Cave 3rd Bt. The line then goes back through Sir Charles Henry (1861) and his wife Beatrice, Sir Charles Daniel (1832) and his wife Edith Harriet. Then to Daniel (1789) and his wife Frances; Stephen (1763) of Cleve Hill Bristol and his wife Anne; John (1736) of Arnos Vale and his wife Susannah; Edward (1712) of Pool Hall and his wife Mary; Walter (1686) of Avenbury and his wife Hannah. This family group is the Cave’s of Worcester and Leigh Sinton and are recorded back to Thomas Cave who married Lucy the daughter of John Seton. The date of this marriage is not recorded but could be about 1200.
Nicholas S Cave (468) of Sidbury Manor Devon Nicholas is the 2nd son of the late Sir Charles E C Cave 4th Bt of Sidbury Manor in Devon. His ancestry is as above (469).
Thomas D Cave (467) Cave of Liverpool and New York Thomas’ father is/was Harold Clifford Cave (1927) of New York who married Marie J Keller. His grandfather was Samuel Cave (1879) of Liverpool who married Amelia Becker in New York and they had eight children. It is said that Samuel had run away from home and went to New York. Samuel was the third son of John (1850) of Liverpool and his wife Margaret Kerr. Then to Stephen (1827) and his first wife Mary Palmer; John (c 1795) and Elizabeth; John (1759) of Ormskirk and Alice Mullis; John (1729) of Burscough and Ann Leyland; Thomas (1699) and Joannah Culshaw. Finally to John (c 1675) of Halsall and Cicely Hatton. Betty LeBlanc (466) Cave of Kent Betty’s family originates from the Kent area with mention of Canterbury and Deal. Her father was John James Cave born on the 4th of June, possibly, 1896. He was the illegitimate son of Louisa Elizabeth (Jane) (possibly bo 1880). He married on the 14th of October 1926 aged 30 in Hythe Kent. Louisa Elizabeth’s father was also John James and, in marriage certificates his trade was Plasterer. He may have been born in the March Quarter of 1857 in the Eastry RD. Louisa Elizabeth had sisters Rose, who married ? Patterson; Nell born in Deal, who married ? Lambert and went to Canada and Alice. Louisa Elizabeth married, first in the Canterbury Registration District on the 31st of October 1899, to John Bierville. He must have died because she married again to ? Blizzard. It was by this name she died in 1950, aged 70, in Folkestone. One would think that with all this information it would be easy to identify the various members of the family. But. There is no mention of John James, a Plasterer in the 1881 Census, but I may have his birth in 1857. There is no mention of any of the sisters, or John James (1896) in the GRO Index either.
Ian R Holmes (465) Cave of Huddersfield Ian’s mother was Gladys Margaret Cave (1928). Her parents were Herbert (1900) and Bessie Horner, then to, Alfred (1864) of Saddleworth in YKS and Eliza Mercer; John (c1826) in Huddersfield and Ann Carter and finally (at the moment) Thomas (1803) of Dewsbury, YKS and Elizabeth Hellewall.
Paul A Droar (464) Cave of London Paul is descended from Ellen Greatwood Cave (1837) who married William H Borham in 1859 at St Giles Camberwell. Her parents were William George (1807) of Marylebone and Harriet Elizabeth Wood, then to Matthew (c 1782) and Elizabeth who married 1805 in Kensington. Matthew was a China Dealer, in 1823, of 200 Oxford Street.
Denys S Caves (463) Caves of London and Birmingham Denys’s parents were John William Caves (1912) of Sutton Coldfield (WM). Then to Walter Henry (1884) of Aston Nr Birmingham and Anne Caroline Gittings; Frederick John (1853) of Ealing Middelsex and Ellen Tracy; John (1823) and Mary Ann Peyton. John was an illegitimate son of Mary Ann Cave. The family moved to New Zealand in the 1930’s.
Mike Wood (462) Cave of Galhampton, SOM, and Gillingham, DOR Mike has interests in the family group of Gillingham (Dorset) and Galhampton. The lineage is from John Walter (1949), of Luton; Ivor Mumford (Cave) (1916); John (1891) of Sturminster and Ethel Annie Mumford; John (1868) and Harriett Ashfield; John (c1825) and Sarah Francis; Henry (1799) of Gillingham, and Mary; Thomas (1756) and Ann Toogood; Charles (1721) and Grace Goddard;William (1673) and Sarah Stevens; John (c1640) and Joan Sandell; John (1606) and Rachel; Morgan (1576) and Maud Davis and finally Robert who died in 1593 and his wife Jane.
June Spendlove (461) Cave of Stamford June’s husband is descended from Eleanor Cave who married John Spendelove, 2nd October 1787 in Stamford Baron. This part of Stamford is on the Lincolnshire/Northamptonshire border.
Elaine Phillips (460) Cave of Monks Kirby, WAR Elaine is descended from Emma Cave who married Frederick Henry Toone on the 2nd of January 1872. Emma was baptised on the 13th of June 1846 a daughter of Joseph (1809) of Monks Kirby and Mary Simmons; then Thomas (c1763 and his second wife Ann Lane of Croxton Kerrial.
Douglas Hamer (459) Cave of London Douglas is descended from Eliza Cave (1809) who married David Hamer on the 11th November 1842 at St Leonards Shoreditch. She was the daughter of William (1772) and Sarah Jefferson; then John (1748) an Ironmonger of Grosvenor Square London and Rebecca Saunders. It is possible that John’s father was William (c 1723) a Copper Smith of Smithfield and Mary Brocks. John’s father is simply described as Mr Cave of Plaistow, and thereby hangs a mystery.
Steve Smith (458) Cave of Swinford Steve’s links with the Cave family are interesting. His brother, Ian married Deborah Cave (1970). Her father is James Cave (1944). Then to Albert Thomas (1904) and Eva Bealsey; Walter Eli (1881) of Swinford and Alice Penn; William (1852) and Anne Barnett. On this line we have more research to do to prove which William of Swinford this family is linked to. However, James (1944) had a brother Colin (1934) who married Joan Cave (1941). Her parents were Percival (1910) of Clifton on Dunsmore, and his wife Ethel Freeman. Then to Hubert (1884) of Ellesmere Port and Florence Colledge; William Henry (1859) of Salford and his first wife Mary Crutchley; Joseph henry (1828) of Newbold and Hannah Glen; Thomas (1798) of Croxton Keyrial and Susannah Warren; Thomas (c1763) and his 2nd wife Ann Lane.
Jeremy S F Hopkinson (457) Cave of Folke, DOR Jeremy is descended from his grandmother, Ruth Margaret Cave (1891) of Southport. Ruth’s parents were Fawcett (1860) of Crook Co Durham and Ruth Shepherd, then William Henry (1825) of Bristol (a Wesleyan Minister) and Elizabeth Fawcett; Abraham John (1791) and Rebecca Boog; Abraham (1766) and Sarah Saddington; John (1729) of Folke in Dorset and Tabitha Dorchester; John (1706) and Mary Davidge; Abraham (1681) of Milbourne Port and Mary Swetman; Abraham (1658) and Sarah; Samuel (1627) and Edith; Abraham (bu 1659) and Joan.
Paul Cave (456) Cave of Northampton Paul’s father is Ernest Phillip (1920). Then to Ernest (1897) of Northampton; Abel (1874) and Eliza West; William (1837) of Sherington and Harriet Amelia Mitchell and finally (at the moment) Peter (c1800) and his 2nd wife Elizabeth Joyce.
Sir John Cave Bt (455) Cave of Sidbury Manor Sir John is the eldest son of the late Sir Charles E C Cave 4th Bt of Sidbury Manor in Devon. His grandfather was Sir Edward Charles Cave 3rd Bt. The line then goes back through Sir Charles Henry (1861) and his wife Beatrice, Sir Charles Daniel (1832) and his wife Edith Harriet. Then to Daniel (1789) and his wife Frances; Stephen (1763) of Cleve Hill Bristol and his wife Anne; John (1736) of Arnos Vale and his wife Susannah; Edward (1712) of Pool Hall and his wife Mary; Walter (1686) of Avenbury and his wife Hannah. This family group is the Cave’s of Worcester and Leigh Sinton and are recorded back to Thomas Cave who married Lucy the daughter of John Seton. The date of this marriage is not recorded but could be about 1200.
Rick Pringle (454) Cave of Calverton Rick is looking at descent from Thomas (1630) of Calverton Bucks and his wife Elizabeth Lowndes and their son William (bp 1656). This is difficult to interpret as this family started off with Thomas Smith/Smythe alias Cave, or Caves and his wife Marie Welford. I have also links with Lowndes, Smythe and Croke in Winslow Bucks. This has indication that there are possible links with Prudence Cave who married John Croke and Dorothy Cave who married William Smythe. These all belong to the caves of Stanford and are daughters of Richard (d1538) and Margaret Saxby. The latter has a tomb in Stanford on Avon Church. Research is required to prove this lineage.
Ronald J Sandstead (453) Cave of Swinford Ronald is descended from Maude Cave (1881) of Harlan Co Nebraska who married Charles Edward Sandstead in 1899. Her parents were Dennis W Cave (1849) of Indiana and his wife Sarah Vetura Jones, then William C Cave (1801) of Swinford Leic, and his 2nd wife Ellen C Russell of Indiana. Then, Charles (1765) and Sarah Choice; John (1744) and Ursula Jackson; Thomas (1700) and his 2nd wife Mary Smith; Richard (1654) of Walcot and Ann Brown; Thomas (1612) and Abigail Lord; Thomas (1583) and Joan Parberry; Thoams and Elizabeth mawbee (m1577); Christopher (d 1591) and Agnes Catesby; Thomas of Stanford (A 1547); John of Sinecross and his wife the daughter of Edward Saunders; Thomas of Stanford (d1495) and Thomasine Passmere. This is then the main line of the Cave family back to South Cave in Yorkshire.
Brian Cave (452) Cave of Maidford, NTH Brian’s father was Richard (1912), then Henry George (1881) and Elizabeth Schofield of Maidford; Richard (1832) and Fanny Reeve; William (1797) and Susannah Hollaway; Richard (1775) and Ann Cooper of Thorpe Mandeville; Thomas (c1745) and Sarah Bartlett; Thomas (1714) and Elizabeth of Guilsborough; William (1685) and Joice; John (1661) and his first wife Elizabeth Seamark; John (1624) and Elizabeth Hide and so to Valentine (c1585) and Agnes.
Kerry Ward (451) Cave of Great Easton, LEI Kerry is descended from Elizabeth Cave (born 1770 in Great Easton LEI) who married John Inchley in 1792. Her parents were Thomas (1729) and Ann Molesworth then William (1701) and Elizabeth Stokes; Thomas (1669) and Bridget Bull; Thomas (1632) and Ann; Robert (1590) and Susannah Watkin; Thomas (1544) and Prudence Booth of Thorpe Malsor; John (d 1593) and Margaret; unknown Liv 1547 and Margaret then John The Elder who was buried 1557. This latter three generations are mentioned in various wills.
William Edward Cave (450) Cave of Illinois William’s parents were Albert Thomas Caves (1877) of Johnson Co Illinois and Emma Doris Michels. His Grandfather was William Thomas Caves (1852) and Virginia Hartman. Harley Cave (449) Cave of Yelvertoft Harley is descended from Richard Henry Cave (born 1913 in Australia), his father. Then Harry Arthur (1868); Jonathon (1831) of Swinford and his second wife Eliza Davis; Jacob (1795) of Yelvertoft and Mary Atkins; William (1719) and his wife Dorcas Hobley.
Peter W Bradshaw (448) Cave of Sutton, CAM Peter is descended for Sarah Cave of Sutton CAM (c1812) who married Joseph Macer in 1834. Sarah’s ancestors were Thomas (1179) and Elizabeth Hadder; William (1745) and Susannah Holmes; Scott (born in Wentworth 1702) and Susannah; Thomas (1671) and Susannah; Thomas (c1647) and Ann Allome and possibly William (c 1610). Therein lies a problem. This is the Isle of Ely, a Cromwell stronghold. Parish Records are very hard to find for the early 17th Century, due to the Civil War.
Dulcie Perry (447) Cave of Bulwick Dulcie is descended from Elsie Cave (1897) of Holbeach. Elsie’s ancestors were William (1869) and Emma Castle, then, Robert (1826) and Rebecca Wain; John (1793) and his second wife Martha Whitehead; Robert (1759) and Sarah Carnel. This Robert was born in Bulwick and had “settlement” in Leverington CAM, before moving to Holbeach. As such his parents (and ancestors) would be Robert of Bulwick (1732) and Ann Oldfield; Robert (c1700) and Elizabeth Freasour; Robert (1676) and Ursula Bruce; Robert (1640) and Agnes and finally William (bu 1652 in Bulwick) and Elizabeth. A cousin for John and Trish Cave (99).
Jane M Mcintyre (446) Cave of Gillingham, DOR Jane finds her Cave ancestry in Gillingham, Dorset, in Charlotte Cave (c1829) who married George Blackmore. They married 1850. Charlotte’s parents appear to be Robert (1788) and Mary, then William and Elizabeth. This is a new family group that appears to have no connection with the established Cave family of Gillingham DOR.
Keith Cave (445) Cave of South London Keith’s father is Robert George Cave (1937) . Then, to John George (1903) and Florence Bristow and to Arthur (c1870). Research is in progress to take this group further.
Peter M Smith (444) Cave of Milbourne Port, SOM Peter is descended from Hester Cave (c1733) who married Henry Morris on the 1st January 1760 at North Wooton Dorset. She was the daughter of John (1706) and his wife Mary Davidge. The line then follows Abraham (1658) and Mary Sweetnam; Abraham (1658) and Sarah of Milbourne Port; Samuel (1627) and Edith; Abraham (c1600) and Joan Smith.
Mary Ballinger (443) Cave of Swinford Mary is descended form Jane Cave (c1811) of Swinford who married John Harrat (w) in Swinford on the 24th February 1831. Jane was a daughter of Charles (1765) and Sarah Cave of Swinford, Misterton and Claycoton. He married in Blaby but declared himself “of Swinford”. Charles was the son of John (1744) of Walton and Ursula Jackson. The line then goes through Thomas (1700) and Mary Smith; Richard (1654) and Ann Brown; Thomas (1612) of Walcot and Abigail Lord; Thomas (c1590) and Joan Parberry; Thomas (c1550) of Walcot and Elizabeth Mawbee; Christopher (c1510) of Stanford and Walcot; and so back to the main Cave line through Thomas; John of Sinecross; Thomas (who died 17Sep1495) of Stanford Manor. Then through the main line to Jourdain de Cave of South Cave.
Charles Harrison Cave (442) Cave of Preston Deanery, NTH Charles father was Charles Horace Cave (c1875) of Northampton. He married twice, first to Edith Gee and secondly, to Dorothy Harrison, Charles’ mother. Then to George, born 1830 in Preston Deanery and Julia Betts; John (1786) and Rachel Tite; John (1754) of Roade and Elizabeth Newman; George (1733) and Mary Blunt; George (1695) and Ann Kilpinge; John (1659) and Ann Boote to William who was buried in Roade in 1665 and Mary. Thomas Henry Cave (441) Cave of Sidbury Manor Thomas is the third son of the late Sir Charles E C Cave of Sidbury Manor in Devon. His lineage follows that of his eldest brother, Sir John (455) above.
Christopher Cave-Whitley (440) Cave of Gilmorton, LEI Christopher is descended from Rebecca (1860) who married Charles William Capner. She is descended from William (1821) of Gilmorton and Anne Grewcock; William (1795) and Jane Pratt; Anne (1775) who had children with the assistance ofWilliam Copson; Richard (c1747) of Claycoton and Elizabeth York.
Nigel Mason Cave (439) Cave of Stilton Nigel is the brother of Charles James (438) and his ancestry is recorded below.
Charles James Cave (438) Cave of Stilton Both Charles and Nigel's (above) father is James Bevan Cave (1933) ; Charles Aubrey (1900) of West Ham and Sarah Louise Bevan. John Mason Lyon Cave (1871) of Stilton and Elizabeth Ann Wing; William Mason Cave (1842) of Folksworth and Mary Ann Whitehead; Edmund (1793) of Bulwick and Ann Jackson; Obadiah (1778) and Elizabeth Brown; William (1738) and Ann Bunning; Estius (1713) and Susannah Yeomans; Eustatius (1668) and Eleanor Curtis; Robert (1640) and Agnes and (so far) William of Bulwick, who was buried 1652, and his wife Elizabeth.
Rory Hughes (437) Cave of Scotland and New York Rory’s Grandmother was Elizabeth Cave (1898) who married Harry R Hughes, I believe, in New York. Elizabeth’s parents were Charles Willoughby Cave (bo c 1873 in Scotland) and his first wife, Elizabeth Dinwoody then John (bo c 1854 and Robina Willoughby). John was an illegitimate child of John (c 1830) and Barbara Neil, in Scotland.
Gilbert Ross Cave (436) This family group has been instigated by Deborah Karen Cave LeBlanc (1960), the daughter of Gilbert. Gilbert Ross Cave (1935) married Carrie Jeanne Smith and his father was Myron Edwin and mother Elsie May. Myron is descended from Edmond (aka Edward W Cave) (1848) and his wife Amanda Jane; Joseph (1817) and Sarah Ann; Benjamin (1787) and Nancy and, finally, John (1758) and Catherine.
Janette Cave (435) Cave of Prescott, LAN Janette is the daughter of Charley (1888) of Prescot who married Norma Lydford. Charley is descended from James (1855) and Matilda Houghton Hinds and Thomas (c1824) and his first wife.
Marian Ferney Pedersen (434) Cave of London Marian is descended from Lavina Lucy Cave (1848) of Illinois, a daughter of Samuel Halstead Cave (1811) of London and his wife Emeline Sturdevant of New York. Samuel is descended from Holsea (1776 and his wife Mary Titchner and Holsea (c1750) and his wife Susannah Smith.
Frank Cave (433) Cave of Derby Frank is descended from Frank (1919), his father, then Frederick (1877) of Nottingham and his wife Caroline Ralley. Then Thomas (1852) of Matlock Bath and Mary Watts; Thomas (18290 of Darley Dale and Fanny; Thomas (1794) of Ordsall and Sarah Cocking; Thomas (1765) and Catherine Ponton and, finally, Christopher (17400 and Martha Hemsworth.
Heather Cave (432) Cave of Bridgewater Heather is the wife of Michael (1958), the son of James (240) (bo 1934), then to Stanley (1914) and Mary Georgina Whitcombe; William (1875) and Nellie Mounsher; William (bo c 1850) in Middlesex but, a sailor in Bridgewater in 1881 and Eliza James; James (c 1823) and Susan Hannah Banfill/Susannah Banfield and then to Robert of Bridgewater who died in 1843.
Malcolm Cave (431) Cave of Sunderland Malcolm’ father was Malcolm Hodgson Cave (1935). His parents were Edward (a Merchant Seaman of Sunderland) and Winifred Amy Hodgson. More research is in progress.
Adrian Cave (430) Cave of Worcester and Bristol Adrian’s father was Daniel Adrian Francis (1906). Then to Adrian Lawrence (1874) and Mary Christina Kerr; Laurence Trent (1824) and his 2nd wife Lucy Greenwood; Charles (1796) and Sarah Cumberbatch (of Barbados); Stephen (1763) of Cleve Hill Bristol and Anne Daniel; John of Arnos Vale (1736) and Susannah Cox; Edward of Pool Hall (1712) and Mary Hallward; Walter of Avenbury (1686) and Hannah; William of Martley (1645) and Elizabeth Ingram; Thomas (1612) and Elizabeth Arden; William (1586) and Ann browning; William of Leigh Sinton (1565) and Eleanor Beale; Richard of Leigh Sinton and Margaret de la Hay; Thomas (d 1549) and Elizabeth Tovy; John and Margaret Acton; Thomas (al 1453 to 1472) and Margaret Hall; John and Mary Brookes; John and Jane Tresham; Sir John and Abigail Ladbrooke and finally Thomas who married Lucy Seton. Tom Cave (429) Cave of Southampton Thomas is descended from Ernest Frederick (1883) of Southampton and his wife Gwendoline Alberta Long; Thomas Frederick (1874) and Ellen Bessant; John (bo c 1810) in Wareham DOR and his wife Charlotte Taylor.
Anne Watts (428) Cave of Culworth and Rugby Anne is the daughter of Peggy, who married the late Walter Heasman. Peggy is descended fro George Fred (1887) of Banbury and his wife Eliz Mary Symes; Frederick Isaac (1863) and Mary Ann Hawkins; John (1823) and Sarah Dean Matthews; Richard (1775), of Thorpe Mandeville, and Charlotte Pettifer; Richard (1751) and Elizabeth Ray; Thomas (1714), of Guilsborough, and Elizabeth; William (1685) and Joice; John (1661) of East Haddon; and his 1st wife Elizabeth Seamark; John (1624 and Elizabeth Hide; and valentine (d1656) and Agnes.
Amanda Goulding (427) Cave of Richmond Sister of Penelope Cave (423) and daughter of Ian McClellan Cave, as described below.
James Trabue (426) Cave of Barrow on Soar James is descended from Margaret Cave (1586) of Barrow on Soar, who married the Rev Adrian Babington. Margaret's father was Henry (d1600) and his wife Phillipa Braham; descended from Dr Francis Cave (d1583), of Bargrave, and his wife Margaret Lisle; Richard (d1538), of Stanford, and his 2nd wife Margaret Saxby; Thomas (d1495) and his 1st wife Thomasine Passmere, and so back to Jordayne de Cave, retainer to William the Conqueror.
Phillip Royal Cave (425) Cave of Great Houghton Philip is descended from Royal Cave (1910) and his wife Jane Shillitoe; William Charles (1879), of Great Houghton, and his wife Ethel Mary Lack of Barnsley; Henry Francis (1848) and Sarah Anne; Benjamin (1798) and Elizabeth Briggs; Benjamin (1754) and his 2nd wife Hannah Tew; Joseph (c1714) and Ann Whitmey.
Jonathan Cave (424) Cave of Swinford Jonathan was born in 1967 and visited me, with his mother and father, and brothers, in Sawtry many years ago. They had been sent from Swinford, where the family originated, to see me, as "I knew all about the Cave Family"! Jonathon's father (1925) knew that his father, David (1884) had been born in Swinford and emigrated to New South Wales before 1914. It was fortunate for Richard that Greta, Lynda, and I had interpreted all the Cave's of that area the month before. David (1884) was descended from George (1856) and his wife Martha; George (1823) and his wife Eliz; Charles (1799) and Mary Masters; Charles (1765) and Sarah Choice; John (1744) of Walton and Ursula Jackson; Thomas (1700) and his 2nd wife Mary Smith; Richard (1654) and Ann Brown of Leicester; Thomas (1612) of Walcot and Abigail Lord; Thomas (1583) and Joan Parberry; Thomas (c1556) of Walcot and Elizabeth Mawbee; Christopher (d1591) of Stanford and Walcot and Agnes Catesby; Thomas (d 1547/8); John of Sinecross and the daughter of Edward Saunders; Thomas (d1495) of Stanford and his 1st wife Thomasine Passmere. This is then the main Cave Family Group line going back to Jordayne de Cave and his brother Wymarus who are recorded as being retainers to William the Conqueror.
Penelope Cave (423) Cave of Richmond Penelope's father is Ian McLellan Shore Cave (1925). His parents are Kenneth McLellan Cave (1893) and Joyce Shore; then to Sir Basil Shillito Cave (1865) and Mary McLellan; Thomas (1825 and Eliz Shallcross; George (1787) of Tetbury and Harriett Gould; John (1752) and his wife Hannah Holder; Thomas (1722) and Sarah Gingell; Thomas (1685) of Owlpen and Elizabeth Butcher and so to Lionel of Owlpen (who died 1729) and Jane, his wife.
Patti Jarvis (422) Cave of Bridgewater Patti is descended from Katherine Gertrude (1922) a daughter of Thomas (1888), of Bridgewater, and his wife Alma Blanche Pitman; Thomas (1852) of Marylebone and his wife Elizabeth Lloyd; James (1823) and his wife Susan Hannah Banfill (Susannah Banfield); Robert of Bridgewater deceased by 1845.
Gordon H Cave (421) Cave of Liverpool Gordon's father was Robert (1905) and his mother Doris Johnson then to James (1856) of Liverpool and his 2nd wife Jane Taggart who he married in 1884. Then to Robert (1818) of Halsall and his 1st wife Ellen Reynolds; James (1794) and his 1st wife Nancy Riding; John (1766) of Ormskirk; James (1732) and Ellen Boyce; John (1703) and Catherine Taylor; finally John (c 1675) and Cicely Halton.
Sylvia Townsend (420) Cave of Kingstanley GLS Sylvia's father was George Frederick John Cave(1899) and her mother Kate Ada Agnes Howard. Then George Francis (c1876) and Ada Files; John (1855) of Kings Stanley and Annie Gardner; John (1819) and Susan Webb and Charles (c1782), of Kings Stanley, and Ann Beard. Pamela Patterson (419) Cave of Owlpen Pamela is descended from Sarah Cave (1778) who married John Street in 1799 and created the CAVE-STREET family. Sarah's father was John (1752) and his wife Hannah Holder; then to Thomas (1722) and Sarah Gingell; Thomas (1685) and Elizabeth Butcher; and then to Lionel and Jane of Owlpen (John died 1729)
John Cave (418) Cave of Barcombe, SSX John's father is Arthur, born 1912 in Ditchling, His father was Charles born 1871, then Frederick born 1847 and his wife Ellen. Then to Joseph born 1820 in Balcombe.
John B Cave (417) Cave of Horton, NTH John's parents were Bernard Cyril (1901) and Edith Maud Selman. Then to John George (1879) and Ada Mary Eldred; John Thomas (1847) and Harriet Ann Eady of Molesworth; John (1822) and his cousinn Ann Swannel Cave of Preston Deanery; John (1754) of Piddington; George (1733) and Mary Blunt of Roade; George (1695) and Ann Kilpinge also of Roade; John (1659) and Ann Boote of Roade; and William (who died at Roade in 1665) and his wife Mary. William may be the son of John and Sarah of Holcott.
Janet Wood (416) Cave of London Janet has, as her nearest Cave ancestor, Sarah Ann (1840) of London who married Henry Holland in 1861 in Newington. Her father was Henry (c1808) who married Sarah farr; his father was William (c1777) who married Sarah Boheme, 1798, in St Pancras (London). William was a Writer with the East India Company.
Susan A Fleming (415) Cave of Parkestone Susan is descended from Walter James Cave (1910) of Battersea in London, William Charles (1880) of Love Lane in Poole Dorset, William Henry (1853) of Parkstone, Charles Davis Cave (1820) of Yarlington, George Parsons Cave (1793) of West Stower and Thomas Cave (c 1770).
Penny Pratt (414) Cave of Thorney, CAM Penny is descended from Emma Cave of Thorney (1820), John (1787) Thorney, John (c1755) not traced yet, William (1750) Dean in Bedfordshire, Thomas (1726) Woburn Bedfordshire, Thomas (c1700) also of Woburn. This should now read Thomas (1727) of Leicester.
Chris D Walker (413) Cave of Gedling, NTT Chris is descended from Francis Cave (c 1740) of Gedling, Notts, through Thomas (1771), William (1820), Thomas (1854), Herbert (1884), Elizabeth ME (1912) who married Cyril Walker.
Robert G Pittenger (412) Cave of Swinford Robert is descended from Stephen Cave who was born in Swinford in 1810 and went to America with his brother William. They both have had extended families there. Stephen is descended from Charles (1765 - EO2) of Swinford. This line then lnks to the main Cave Family Line.
Daphne Joye (411) Cave of Wisbech, CAM Daphne is the sister of Charles G Cave (204) and is descended from Charles (1898) and Doris Markwell, Walter (1866) and Jane Grommitt, Thomas (1832) and Matilda, to Thomas (c1795) and Elizabeth of Helpston (to the north of Peterborough), and there we have a problem. We can not trace the birthplace, or family, of this Thomas.
Jonathon Cave (410) Cave of London and Cork Jon is descended from Thomas Saunders Cave (1795 - KT7) who married Caroline Maria Cloves. TSC is known for his adventures in Copper Mining in Cornwall and his trial was covered in Volume 4 of the Newsletters. Through various members of the society we have lineage back to c 1585 in London.
Gill Evans (409) Cave of Peterborough Gill is descended from a Mary Cave who married William Gleadhill of Oundle in Peterborough in 1746. It would appear that she was the daughter of Joseph Cave. This is quite complex, as a Settlement document states that Joseph may have been from Spalding. There are quite a few Joseph Cave's drifting between the two towns. I hope that I have found the right one.
Pam Hodge (408) Cave of Liverpool Pam's son-in-law, Charles, is a Cave. He was born in 1963, the son of William James (1924). William was the son of Henry who, I think, was born in the January Quarter of 1890 in Liverpool.
Tracy Grant (407) Cave of Papworth and Stilton Tracey is descended from Thomas Cave (1827) of Papworth, James (1790) and Jane Craghill. His father was Paul Cave (1746) and Elizabeth Cheeseman. Paul is, of course, descended from the Cave's of Bulwick. Tracey must be related to David Bolling (348).
Jean Cave (406) Cave of Southampton and Gillingham (DOR) Jean's husband, Ivan, is descended from Norman Alfred (1919), Harry Alfred (1892), Harry Collis (1865) and Joseph (1831). Joseph was Benny Hill's Great Grandfather. Jeans daughter, Emily, joined us at Stanford in June 2000. She did some research and found that this family group is linked to the Cave's of Gillingham in Dorset.
Colin Cave (405) Cave of Dewsbury, YKS Colin is descended or the Cave's of Dewsbury in Yorkshire. His father was Eric (1912) descended from Herbert Henry (1887) Joe Ellis (1854) and William (1825). Colin believes that he has some links with Spalding, Joe Ellis married Eliza Copping in Spalding in 1881. Eliza's father was a witness at a marriage of a Lucy cave in 1881.
Peter and Pauline Bentley (404) Cave of Tetbury and South Australia Pauline is descended from Charles Cecil who was born in 1892 in Broken Hill (Australia) and his wife Mabel Jane Clark. Charles father was John Charles Gould Cave (1868) and his wife Jessie E O Hilson: then John Cave of Tetbury who emigrated to Adelaide about 1840. John Cave was born 1819 and married Anne Brinkworth Long, 1853, in Adelaide. John is descended from George (1787) of Tetbury and Harriett Gould; John (1752) and his wife Hannah Holder; Thomas (1722) and Sarah Gingell; Thomas (1685) of Owlpen and Elizabeth Butcher and so to Lionel of Owlpen (who died 1729) and Jane, his wife.
Jill Sapstead (403) Cave of Nottingham Jill is descended from Edward Cave (bo. c1766, Cold Ashby) via Thomas Carter Cave (bo 1846, Coventry) who married two of her Great-grandfather’s sisters in Nottingham 1879 and 1880. They were Eliza Ann and Sarah Jane Greening.
Chris J Wallis (402) Cave of Liverpool Chris’ mother-in-law was Joyce Cave (bo. 19 May 1928). Her father was Arthur Barclay Cave (bo. 27 Jun 1892, Liverpool). His father was Robert (bo. 3 Feb 1853, Liverpool) and mother Elizabeth (Swift). Robert’s father was John, who married Sarah Kershaw. (This John was a shoemaker).
Charles J Cave (401) Cave of Stilton Charles is Ann Beynon’s (no 386) nephew and as such is related to the Caves of Stilton.
Rosemary Tait (400) Cave of Barbados Rosemary is descended from the daughter of Winefride Olive Cave and Charles Cumberbatch Cave. This person is the 3C’s in Stephen Cave’s (Barbados) family.
Gordon Russell-Cave (399) Cave of Halsall, LAN Gordon’s parents are/were Stanley Roberts (1900), of Blackburn, and Grace Smith. Then to Frederick (1870) and Minnie Roberts; John 1834 and Mary Sugden; John (1802) and Hannah Pilkington; Richard (17780 and mary Trelfall; Stephen (1734), of Simonswood, and Ann; John (1703) and Catherine Taylor. Finally, John (c 1675) and Cicely Halton.
Sandra Cave (398) Cave of Virginia Sandra is Julia Parlett’s sister. They both live in "Cave territory" in Virginia.
Julia Parlett (397) Cave of Virginia Descended from John Cave (1758) and Catherine of Virginia and their son Jonas (1786-1879). She is descended twice from this Jonas through his two marriages, one to Sarah Valentine, the other to Elizabeth Parks.
Richard P Cave (396) Cave of South Kilworth Descended from Abraham (1820) who married Mary Dyson, of South Kilworth and Rugby, through Edwin (1852), Albert Ernest James Edwin (1874) of Northampton. A relative to Raymond G Cave (102) of Ludlow.
Tim Cave (395) Cave of Spalding Descended from John Cave (1789) who married Mary Ann Gostelow and their son, Joseph (1822) who married Harriet Morgan. This is another sprig on the Cave’s of Spalding and related to Mary Smith (216) and Sue Barnes (43).
Tim Caves (394)
Raymond Cave (393) Cave of Yelvertoft Raymond is a brother of Gordon Cave (353) and his ancestry is below.
Sandra Pearcey (392) Cave of Yelvertoft Sandra is descended from Ann Cave (born 1814) of Yelvertoft, who married William Carpenter. Her parents were Jacob (1795) and Mary Atkins.
Chris Cave (391) Cave of Leicester Descended from William (1803) who married Tabitha Barnacle. Through their son Joseph who was baptised 6 Mar 1841 and married Hannah Sanders. A new relative for Mary Vett (210) and Christine Lansdowne.
Betty K Shuffield (390) Cave of Virginia Descended from Martha Cave (1827) who married (1st) Willam C Knight (2nd to John Thomas Carver). Her father was Henry W (1800) and Nancy Jane Bass. Henry had migrated from Clarke Co Alabama to Clarke Co Mississipi and then to Milam Co Texas. His parents were John (1774) and Lucinda Causey, then John (1757) and Sarah Wilson Brown of Barnwell Co South Carolina. This latter John was a veteran of the American Revolution.
David Harris (389) Cave of Hanslope, Bucks Descended from Miriam Cave who was baptised 3 Nov 1811, an illegitimate daughter of Charlotte Cave of Hanslope in Bucks. Thanks to the Vicar of Hanslope I have this family recorded back to c1699.
Pat Jones (388) Cave of Bulwick and Cambridge Brian is descended from William Cave of Bulwick who was baptised in 1769. I have this family back to c1614, possibly in Kettering. But look at Ann Beynon (386). Two members from the same family group – the Cave’s of Bulwick. Brian then goes on to say that William had a daughter, Lucy, who married, and had a daughter Maria Eat. This is very interesting to me as it links another family group in Holywell, Huntingdonshire, to Bulwick. William had married Elizabeth Nunn 27May1803 in Holywell. Is it the same William baptised in Bulwick?
E Ann Evans (387) Cave of Worcester and Bristol Ann is descended from the Cave’s of Cleve Hill in Bristol, and Worcester. Her direct ancestor is Charles Cave Cumberbatch who changed his name to Charles Cave Cave, CCC. He is related to Stephen Cave of St Nicholas Abbey, Barbados.
Ann Beynon (386) Cave of Stilton Ann is descended from the Cave’s of Stilton. Yes, the place famous for Stilton Cheese. At least, where it was first sold in the 17th Century. Ann’s ancestry is traced back through Folksworth, a village just up the A1 from Stilton. Then back to Bulwick and, we think, Kettering. We can certainly get back to the 17th Century with this family group.
Thomas H Cave (385) Cave of Long Newnton GLS Thomas has links with a farm in Long Newnton in Gloucester. His Gt Gt Grandfather sold it in 1851. This GGGF was born in 1779 in Owlpen, and thereby hangs another major family group. All is in the hands of Alan Moorehouse (268) who is descended from the same group.
Jo Harding (384) Cave of Stockton, Liec. Jo is descended from the same family group as April Zobel (381).
Carolyn Cave Black (383) Cave of Virginia Descended from the Cave’s of Virginia. Carolyn’s ancestry goes back to Henry Cave born 1769 in Carolina County Virginia, who married Miss Smith. We then come to the Benjamin Cave who arrived in Va in 1725, and the question of their origin. Some say England and descended from William Cave of Pickwell, 1637-1713. It is unfortunate that the only recorded children are, Elizabeth (1663), William (1664-1665), mary (1669), Ann (1671), William (1674) and John (1676-1677). My records of Benjamin over this period are: Benjamin of Cold Overton bapt 21Apr1665, son of John (c1638) and Ann; Benjamin of Leicester bapt 22May1698, son of James and Mary. There may be others, I am sure, but they have still to be found.
Ronald W Cave (382) Cave of Birmingham Descended from Joseph Cave who was born 14Oct1888. He was a brassfounder and joined the Royal Warwickshire regiment from 1914 to 1918.
April Zobel (381) Cave of Swanwick, Derbyshire April is tracing the ancestry of her first husband who was from Swanwick in Derbyshire. The name of Varney Cave keeps cropping up in various family groups in that area at the same time.
Rosemary Nation (380) Cave of Shoreditch, London Rosemary has lineage back to William Cave (1772) and Elizabeth Hazzard. As such she is related to Kenneth and Janet Austin (126).
Rick Anderson (379) Cave of Virginia Descended from Benjamin Cave (1703) of Virginia through two sons, William and Richard. The lines of descent come together through his mother, Sona Cave who married Murl Anderson. This is achieved over seven generations. Rick is the centre of information on the Cave’s of Virginia. His Web site features in "Computers and Family History". Clinton R Cave (378) Cave of London Clinton is descended from Robert (c 1821) of New York. Then to DeWitt Clinton (c 1897) and Grace Reynolds; De Witt Clinton (c 1869) and Ellen Spies; Archibald George (1834) of St Mary le Bone, London; John (c 1808) who married Emma Pentecost 25 Dec 1830, also in St Mary le Bone. It is possible that John is descended from the Cave family of Roade in Northamptonshire.
Stewart Caves (377) Caves of Aston, Birmingham Descended from John Caves (1823) of Ealing and his wife Mary Ann Peyton. His son, Frederick John (1853) of Ealing, but moved to Warwickshire where he married Ellen Tracey on 21Jul1873 at Edgbaston. The family then went to New Zealand prior to WWII.
Roland Cave (376)
Gail Whitmore (375) Cave of Sutton (Cambs) Descended from "Rolled in Gold" John Cave of Sutton in Cambridgeshire. Another relative for Pat and Dave Baker.
Elizabeth Ogden (374) Cave of Helpston Elizabeth is descended from the Caves of Helpston. She is a first cousin of Charles G. Cave (204). Her father was Alfred (Bill) Cave, 1893-1984. I was amazed at the similarity between him and my father at the same age.
Jeff V Gray (373) Cave of Bath and Manchester Jeff is descended from John Henry Cave who was born at Bathwick (Somerset) 9 Nov 1849. He married, first, Elizabeth Bannister, 20 May 1869, in Manchester Cathedral. Through this marriage he had Elizabeth Ann (bo. 18 Aug 1874), Jeff’s Cave ancestor. His wife Elizabeth died in 1877 and he remarried on 27 Oct 1877, Zea Smith in Hulme. The family then went to Brisbane where John Henry died 21st March 1909. Some of the family returned to England. John Henry’s mother Sylvia was born about 1826 but we are not sure where. John Henry’s birth certificate indicates that he was born out of wedlock and that his father was Daniel Wiltshire (or Witshire). Sylvia subsequently married George Hall in Chorlton in Medlock on 4th June 1857. Her father was named as George but he was dead by 1857. I have searched the 1861 Census of Greater Manchester for George and Sylvia Hall. I was looking for a labourer in a timber yard, or allied trade, but had no success. A result would have confirmed her age and place of birth. All of the above is on Table FQ of the Pedigree Charts.
Charlene Baroch (372) Cave of Ohio and England Charlene is descended from Charles Cave who was born c1804 in England. He married Mary Ann Casteel in 1833 in Harrison County, Ohio. In 1840 he is registered as Cave, in 1850 as Caves. In 1860 they were listed as paupers. They had two daughters. Mary Ann died 19th April 1892.
Paulette Cave (371) Cave of Nuneaton Paulette is carrying out research on her husband’s (George) family. He is descended from George N. Cave who was born in 1898 in the Nuneaton Registration District. This George (1898) has father George (1872) and mother Sarah Jane (Paul), then William (1833) and Hannah Rowley who married 29 Jan 1854. We can then go back to William who possibly married Ann Carter on 27 July 1828. so William would have been born about 1806/7. This may then tie in with possible parents being William who married Ann Pierry on 9th December 1805. All are of Nuneaton and are detailed on Table LE of the Pedigree Charts.
Michael Cave (370) Cave of Nottingham mikecave@nbnet.nb.ca. Since posting Mick's problem, originally, we have major success in tracing his ancestry. Mick's father is Sydney Arthur (bo 1918) in Benwell Newcastle-Upon-Tyne). His ancestry then goes to Bernard (1889) and Gladys Henrietta Holland; Arthur (1867) and Charlotte Elizabeth Boyington; William (1820) and Caroline Etches; Thomas (1771) and Elizabeth Taylor, then to Francis (bo c 1740) of Gedling (Notts) and his second wife Anne Shelton.
Claire East (369) Cave of Winchester Claire is descended from the Cave family of Winchester. The family were artists and engravers. Her family are on Table EC of the Pedigree Charts. Her records start from Richard Cave who married Mary Meacey in 1736. Her lineage is then through their son William (1738-1813) who married Ann Broadway in 1759, and their daughter Mary (1777-1814), who married Robert Moody in 1804. They were a Catholic family group. I have no origins of Richard (c1705).
Michael Cave (368) Cave of Virginia Descended from Benjamin Cave of Virginia in the beginning of the 18th Century, and his father John (1678-1726) and Elizabeth Travers (1689-?). Benjamin married Hannah Bledsoe in 1720 in Orange County. They had a son John, and so it goes on. Rick Anderson is in the same family group. Mike J Cave (367) Cave of Isle of Wight Mike is descended from the Caves of the Isle of Wight. His earliest known Cave ancestor is Thomas, baptised 11 Sep 1607, died 4 Aug 1667. These are portrayed on Tables ID to IK on the Pedigree Charts.
Pat Baker (366) Cave of Sutton (Cambs) Dave and Pat trace ancestry back to the Caves of Sutton on the Isle of Ely in Cambridgeshire. This ancestry goes back into Witchford in the 17th Century but stops there because this area was loyal to Oliver Cromwell during Parliamentary Rule when registers were not maintained.
Betty Jackan (365) Betty has an ancestor Henry Clay Cave, born on 17th March 1828 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He married Maria V. Ridgeway on 7th April 1864 in Ross County, Ohio. Henry Clay’s father was Henry, born about 1797 in Lancashire. He married Lintha Woodward, 29th March 1818 in Norton, Bristol County, Massachusetts. The only Henry I can offer was baptised on 18th April 1790 in Ormskirk, a son of John and Alice.
Vivian Horry (364) Cave of Barrow on Soar Vivien is descended from Margaret Cave (the eldest sister of Theophilus Cave of Barrow on Soar) who married the Reverend Adrian Babington in about 1610. Table UR contains this family group.
Elizabeth Midgley (363) Cave of Nottingham Elizabeth has interest in the Cave family of Gedling in Nottingham. This interest has come about because of one of the names she is researching, Etches, married in to this family. The one link is Wiiliam (1820) married Caroline Etches in 1847. This family group is on Table PM and TH.
John Noble (362) Cave of Helpston John is descended from Ann Cave (baptised 16th May 1802), Helpston, near Peterborough. Her father appears to be named William, but I have no record of him. There is a lot of movement between Peterborough and Spalding at this time and she may belong to any one of a number of families.
Joan I Mitchell (361) Cave of Preston Joan is descended from James, who married Matilda Houghton Hinds in 1884 in Prescott (Lancs). Their son Charles (bo. 15th Aug 1888) married his third wife, Norma Lyford, on 17th Feb 1848 (in Australia). Joan is their third child (born 1951). She is also looking for her brother John Charles Cave, who she had not seen for 20 years (in 1997).
Joan Leslie (360) Cave of Bristol Joan is looking for George Cave of Bristol who married Mary Ann Maggs , and daughter Annie who was born in 1861 and married Walter Sparks in 1883. I have record in the 1881 Census of Annie being a General Servant with William T Adams in Blackburn (Lancs). Her mother was a widow living in Bedminster (Somerset) at this time.
Christine Camplin (359) Cave of Liverpool Christine is descended from Ellen Cave (1828) who married Edwin Owen of Wrexham (Wales). Her father was James (c1800) who married a Mary. Unfortunately this family was based in the Liverpool area which has many James Cave. It also is a "gathering" place for people from Ireland, Wales, and other parts of the country. A difficult problem I have not been able to resolve for years.
Noelle Simpson (358) Cave of Lutterworth Noelle is descended from Ruth Cave of Lutterworth who married John Burrows in 1798. Ruth is descended from Thomas (1745) and Mary Campbell, William (1722) and Mary Butlin and William of Welford (c1700) and Mary Gilbert.
Heath Cave (357) Cave of Desborough Heath is descended from the Cave's of Desborough and is related to founder members John Hereward Cave and Richard Sowter.
Len H Harris (356) Cave of Thorney Len is descended from my "favourite ancestor" Charles Samuel Cave, who had a Government assisted passage to New South Wales in 1824! CSC "left" some descendants in England and I was pleased to welcome Len as a cousin. (I do not have many!!) Len’s Grandmother was Evelyn Cave (1885) who married Leonard I Harris in 1907. Evelyn’s parents were William (1853), of Lambeth, and Frances May Forsley, then to John Edward (1824) born in Chichester and Sarah Nutley; Samuel (1793) and his third wife Sarah Kent (w) of Whitchurch; Samuel (1757), of Thorney, and Anne Cobb. I will not say finally but, to Thomas who may have been born in Woburn in 1726, or in 1727 in Leicester and Elizabeth Wagstaff who he married in Dean in 1748.
Kathy J Baenon (355) Cave of Owlpen Kathy is descended from a James Phillip Cave who married a Martha Flindell. We can not find confirmation of any of their relevant dates. They had a son Robert Joseph (1880) in Texas, who married and had a son George Thomas (1926), Kathey's father. James Phillip had a brother John, who had a son John Charles Gould Cave. Kathy has found descendants from him in Peterborough, South Australia. EUREKA - Kathy is linked to the Cave's of Bodicote in Oxfordshire. Her James Phillip is Phillip (1827), the 7th child of George (1787)and Harriet Cave of Bodicote.
Daphne J Ames (354) Cave of Northampton Daphne is descended from Ada Cave (1885) who married Henry Taylor. Ada is then the daughter of Frederick William (1852) and Esther Jane, William (1821) and Charlotte, Mark Sutton (Cave) (1791) and Frances Tongue, Richard (c 1760) and Sarah Sutton. This family group was based in Frolesworth, Leicestershire. Gordon Cave (353) Cave of Yelvertoft Gordon’s parents were Harold (1902) and his first wife Elizabeth Kathleen Mabson. Then to Henry (1877) and Ethel Maud Dixon; Edward (1843) of Husbands Bosworth and Eliza Ann Sidwell; John (1818) and Catherine Burbage; Jacob (1795) of Yelvertoft and Mary Atkins; William (1747) of Claycoton and his second wife Dorcas Hobley; Thomas (1693) of Catthorpe and Ann Curtis; The Rev John Cave of Catthorpe who married Frances Hull 3rd November 1687. Finally to John’ father, also The rev John cave who was buried in Catthorpe on the 13th March 1713
James A H Cave (352) Cave of London James is descended from David (1928) of Chislehurst, Harvard Wells Cave (1892), William John (1854) of City Road London, Thomas Wells Cave (1822) of London. We can not find Thomas Wells' origins. He died in 1886 and was a Doctor and Baptist Minister.
Geoff A Cave (351)
Sheila M Leach (349) Cave of Great Houghton Shelia is descended from John Gleed Cave (c1914), Charles John (1870) who married Lizzie Gleed, Joseph (1831) and his first wife Caroline, Joseph (1792) and his second wife Sarah, Benjamin (1754) and his second wife Hannah, and Joseph (c 1710) and Ann. All of Great Houghton in Northants.
David R Bolling (348) Cave of Caxton (Cambs) David is descended from Mildred Ilene Cave (1913). She is descended from Clarence Parkfield Cave (1887), James Parkfield Cave (1854), all of New York. James P is descended from Thomas (1827), James (1790) of Papworth Cambs, Paul Cave (1746) who married Elizabeth Cheeseman, Paul (1714) of Bulwick who married Catherine Austin, Robert (1676) and Ursula Bruce, Robert Cave (1640) and William (c 1615) and Elizabeth. All of Bulwick.
Francis J Cave (347) Cave of Bristol and Worcester Francis is the eldest son of the late Peter Cave (1926), of Wisbech CAM. Then to Edward Henry Paul cave (1897) and his first wife Gwenneth Sharp; Rev Edward Harford Halliday Cave (1863), born in Madras, and Sarah Ellen Morgan; Edward (c 1830) and Susan Harriet Harford; George (1798) and Ann Halliday; Stephen (1763), of Cleve Hill Bristol and anne Daniel; John (1736), of Arnos vale, and Susannah Cox; Edward (1712), of Pool Hall Bromyard, and Mary Hallward; Walter (1686) of Avenbury, and Hannah; William (1645), of Martley, and Elizabeth Ingram; Thomas (1612) and Elizabeth Arden; William (1586) and Ann browning; William (1565), of Leigh Sinton, and Eleanor Beale; Richard (c1540) and Margaret de la Hay; Thomas (c15000 and Elizabeth Tovy; John Cave and Margaret acton; Thomas and Margaret Hall; John and Mary Brookes; John and Jane Tresham; sir john and Abigail Brooke; and Thomas, of Stanford, who married Lucy a daughter of John Seton. This lineage is back to the 13th Century.
Audrey Denison (346) Cave of Bulwick and Weldon Audrey’s grandmother was Mary Ann Cave (1853), of Bulwick, who married Charles Anker in 1878. Mary Ann’s parents were George (1818) and Anne Biggs; then to Obadiah (1778) and Elizabeth Brown; William (1838) and Ann Bunning; Estius (1713) and Susannah Yeomans; Eustatius (1668) and Eleanor Curtis; Robert (1640) and Agnes; and to William (bu 1652) and Elizabeth.
June Kalb (345) Cave of Spalding (SF9) June’s grandmother was Emily Cave (1872), of Spalding, who married Frances Eli Pinney. Then to William (1818) and his second wife Mary Ann Merry; William (c1795) and his second wife Eleanor Heath; William (c 17700 and Mary Speechley; John (1732) and Elizabeth Hull.
Albert E Knight (344) Cave of Frolesworth Albert’s mother was Beatrice Maud Cave (1896) who married Ernest William Knight. Her parents were Frederick William (1852) and Esther Jane Sharpe; William (1821) and Charlotte; Mark Sutton (1791) and Frances Tongue; Richard (c 1760) and Sarah Sutton.
Freda L Holroyd (343) Cave of Isle of Wight Freda is descended from Sarah Jane Cave (1822) of the Isle of Wight, who married Isaac Orchard. Sarah Jane is descended from James (1798) and his wife Hannah (Heath); Thomas (1777) and his wife Jane (Jones); James (1750) and Anne (Gilbert); Thomas (1728/9) and Mary (Slater); Thomas (1698) and Frances (Allen); William (1666) and Elizabeth (Warwick); Thomas (1634); Thomas (1607) and Elizabeth (Munday).
Richard Cave (326) Cave of Liverpool Richard (1953) is the eldest son of James (1927). Then to Henry (1895) and Emily Hankin; Henry (1868) and Mary Sutherland; Henry (1820) of Ormskirk and his 2nd wife Mary Ann Clark; Henry (1790) and his 2nd wife Alice Wignall; John (1759) of Bickerstaffe and Alice Mullis; John (1729) of Burscough and Ann Leyland; Thomas (1699) of Ormskirk and Joanna Culshaw; then, finally, John (c 1675) and Cicely Hatton.
John Charles Cave (274) Cave of Paddington LND John (1922) is a cousin to Ronald Charles (275). His parents were Reginald Charles (1893) of Paddington and Mary Ethel Dickinson. Reginald is the elder brother of Horace William (1897) below.
Ronald Colin Cave (275) Cave of Paddington LND Ronald’s (1933) parents were Horace William (1897) and Dorothy Lulu Collingridge. Then to Charles George (1869) and Edith Jane Stokes; William (1831) and Mary Sparkes. Finally Samuel (1808) 0f Paddington.
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